Round #12 Match Committee

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Round #12 Match Committee

Out: Hill, Grant, Shaggy (if suspended)
In: Cooney, Dahlhaus, Vez (if Shaggy/Cooney aren't available), Barlow (if Shaggy and Cooney are out)

Calls for Boyd being out are ridiculous. I know he isn't the perfect player but he is the least of our concerns.

[comrade]

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Rocket seemed pretty adamant in his presser that he'll continue to clear out the under-performers and introduce new players.

Cordy, Dahlhaus, Vez and Schofield must all be on the radar.

[Go_Dogs]

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Out: Grant, Hill
In: Dahlhaus, Tutt

If Libba and Cooney are ready to come back in, they do too. Not sure who else I'd consider dropping, but there are a few options.

[Bornadog]

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Out: Grant, Hill
In: Dahlhaus, Tutt

If Libba and Cooney are ready to come back in, they do too. Not sure who else I'd consider dropping, but there are a few options.

Cooney said he will be back next week.

[Greystache]

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Out- Grant, Wallis, Hill,
In- Cooney, Dahlhaus, Libba

If Hargrave suspended- in Schofield.

[Bornadog]

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Out- Grant, Wallis, Hill,
In- Cooney, Dahlhaus, Libba

If Hargrave suspended- in Schofield.

I agree, but tempted to also drop Jones and bring in Vez. Leave Lake at FF and Mulligan and Williams in the backline.

[comrade]

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I agree, but tempted to also drop Jones and bring in Vez. Leave Lake at FF and Mulligan and Williams in the backline.

Jones' development as a key forward should not be compromised by Lake's incompetence in defence.

Either Lake can play as a key defender, or he shouldn't play at all.

[Greystache]

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I agree, but tempted to also drop Jones and bring in Vez.

Jones isn't getting enough of the ball, but when he is he's showing a lot. IMO we should play him deeper and look to direct the ball through him, he's not finding enough of the ball himself so we should find him, he could be just about the best contested mark in the AFL in 2-3 years time. We don't have much left to play for this year, and he could be a positive in a really bad year.

[Bornadog]

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Jones' development as a key forward should not be compromised by Lake's incompetence in defence.

Either Lake can play as a key defender, or he shouldn't play at all.

I can't agree with that statement?

Jones had 5 touches last week and 4 this week. He needs to regain some confidence at Willi.

We know what Lake is capable of and we need to keep playing him. A stint at FF would be good for his confidence.

[G-Mo77]

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Jones' development as a key forward should not be compromised by Lake's incompetence in defence.

Either Lake can play as a key defender, or he shouldn't play at all.

100% agree with that. He looks shot, if only I could find a Delorean and send him to Hawthorn or Carlton. 3 goals in junk time is nothing to brag about.

Jones is a player who will be long after Lake is gone which is hopefully more sooner than later. Show faith in him and let him develop. Sending him to Willy will do nothing for his development at all. I'm surprised to hear his name mentioned in this thread.

[LostDoggy]

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Calls for Boyd being out are ridiculous. I know he isn't the perfect player but he is the least of our concerns.

Rocco, I agree that dropping him is a ridiculous assumption, however today was not the first match that he has kicked the ball directly to an opponent (on several occasions too).
He has been doing this for the past few years.

[Rocco Jones]

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On Liam Jones- I would do what's best for his development. I would only drop him if it would help his confidence to get more of it at Willy. If it's best for his development to play AFL footy than I don't really mind the likely short term sacrifice.

[boydogs]

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On Liam Jones- I would do what's best for his development. I would only drop him if it would help his confidence to get more of it at Willy. If it's best for his development to play AFL footy than I don't really mind the likely short term sacrifice.

I think the best thing would be to field a side that has a red hot crack and a chance of winning. Going out there and getting beaten by 10 goals every week is no way to develop new players.

I like the idea of Lake forward, not having to worry about shadowing an opponent whilst he gets his touch back

[Bulldog Joe]

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Well Grant and Hill are MUST outs.

Boyd is a concern. It is not only the regularity that he is kicking straight to opposition, he is struggling with his ball handling. On at least 2 occasions he received the tap from Minson and just fumbled it, allowing the clearance that he should have clearly taken, to go Geelong's way.

This is now becoming a regular concern as it also occurred the previous week against Hawthorn.

I think Jones needs to go back to Williamstown and just get a bit of ball. He has good hands but needs to get it more often. That is not going to happen in the senior side with our poor possession rate and substandard delivery.

[Jasper]

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Well Grant and Hill are MUST outs.

Boyd is a concern. It is not only the regularity that he is kicking straight to opposition, he is struggling with his ball handling. On at least 2 occasions he received the tap from Minson and just fumbled it, allowing the clearance that he should have clearly taken, to go Geelong's way.

This is now becoming a regular concern as it also occurred the previous week against Hawthorn.

I think Jones needs to go back to Williamstown and just get a bit of ball. He has good hands but needs to get it more often. That is not going to happen in the senior side with our poor possession rate and substandard delivery.

Its interesting with Boyd, I'll fess up I wanted him traded last year and apparently was the only Bulldogs supporter wanting this, so yeah I think he can be replaced. Would you rather Boyd get 25 his opponent 30, and of Boyd's 25, 6 or 7 are clangers resulting in the opposition getting shots at goal?? Or would you rather Libba get 15 clean possessions and he locks down on his opponent. Or even Addison gets ten possies (with 5 clangers) and his opponent is shut down? The point is moot as I sincerely doubt Eade will drop Boyd. One thing I will say is that if the captain is dropped, what message is sent to everyone else? You would hope that non-performance (specifically regular unpressured turnovers) by anyone is unacceptable.

Does anyone imagine opposition teams in their planning sessions saying 'gee we need to lock down on Boyd he will cut us up if gets loose'? Does anyone remember an opposition supporter saying, 'gee Boyd is killing us'?


Jones is interesting, he always looks good when he gets near it and he is the only player on our list at the moment who looks like taking a contested or pack mark. He also contests okay when the ball hits the deck. His disposal is dodgy. My question is why doesn't he get near it often? I reckon Jones offers something no-one else does at present and should stay in.