Bulldogs champion Chris Grant back in love with the game

[LostDoggy]

Re: Bulldogs champion Chris Grant back in love with the game

Why is it that when best in the AFL lists get thrown up West, Johnson and especially Grant get completely snubbed? Chris was at his absolute best better than anyone, and at his worst second to Carey (he was also better for longer). The complete lack of respect these guys get is astounding. Especially when you consider the crazy media love for guys like Buckley, Harvey, Archer and Hird. The first two also never experienced the ultimate success and the second two are the most overated players in existence.

I completely agree ..... especially when it comes to Chris Grant. The bloke should have won 2 brownlows, one was pinched by Ian Collins and the previous year a last minute Essendon goal in the last game probably cost him the 3 votes (Hird got 3 & Chris 2) and he missed by 1 vote.

He should always be recognised on the same level as the pretty boys Buckley, Voss and Hird.

If Chris had played for one of the high profile clubs he would have legend status.

[LostDoggy]

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I completely agree ..... especially when it comes to Chris Grant. The bloke should have won 2 brownlows, one was pinched by Ian Collins and the previous year a last minute Essendon goal in the last game probably cost him the 3 votes (Hird got 3 & Chris 2) and he missed by 1 vote.

He should always be recognised on the same level as the pretty boys Buckley, Voss and Hird.

If Chris had played for one of the high profile clubs he would have legend status.

This.

[Desipura]

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He should always be recognised on the same level as the pretty boys Buckley, Voss and Hird.

If Chris had played for one of the high profile clubs he would have legend status.[/QUOTE]

I disagree, Granty was a great player however falls just short of Buckley, Voss and Hird.
I believe because there was such a heavy reliance of Granty to win us games up forward, there was too heavy of a burden on his shoulders and hence why he would get the yips. Down back he did not have that pressure and he showed how good he was.
If we had another decent forward during his career , it may have been a different story.
It's no coincidence when Coleman was playing well for us, Granty was relieved of some pressure, that said he was a fantastic player for us, one of our greatest!

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Why is it that when best in the AFL lists get thrown up West, Johnson and especially Grant get completely snubbed? Chris was at his absolute best better than anyone, and at his worst second to Carey (he was also better for longer). The complete lack of respect these guys get is astounding. Especially when you consider the crazy media love for guys like Buckley, Harvey, Archer and Hird. The first two also never experienced the ultimate success and the second two are the most overated players in existence.

I'm with you, Mike. I've never got the Hird love. Good player, not in my best of team
1. Norm Smith. Hird had 30 touches, 13 in the last quarter (Essendon were 59 points up at 3/4 time), 21 handball receives, 4 contested.

Joe Misiti had 25 touches, 11 contested, 11 clearances

Hird won the Norm Smith based on junk time handball receives and image

We all know the Brownlow story from round 22, 1996

[SonofScray]

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Middle section of today's herald Sun has a best players from 1990-2000 in it, broken down by position. I think it was fan voted, so can't knock the paper too much but C Grant does not rate a mention. Behind guys like Archer as a defender and Goodes as a forward.

Honestly, I am astounded by how since retirement his status in the game has slipped so far down the ladder. At his peak playing CHF, he was the equal of Carey (admittedly, only for two seasons.) When playing back he was the best and fairest player in the comp one season, one errant kick from Steve Wallis away from a Brownlow the previous year as well. He had one of the great debut seasons, book ended with some handy work as a bit parts man late in his career.

Took screamers, kicked goals, showed courage, a great sportsman, sublime field kicking skills.... I just can't understand how easily those people outside our Club have disregarded him. I love the bloke, he was a fixture of the Footscray side I followed from childhood into my early 20's and a great role model. Most games I still take the flag I painted with his image emblazoned on it to games - because he deserves to have a visible legacy.

Behind Glen Archer FFS, that toad.

[Missing-Dog]

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I'm with you, Mike. I've never got the Hird love. Good player, not in my best of team
1. Norm Smith. Hird had 30 touches, 13 in the last quarter (Essendon were 59 points up at 3/4 time), 21 handball receives, 4 contested.

Joe Misiti had 25 touches, 11 contested, 11 clearances

Hird won the Norm Smith based on junk time handball receives and image

We all know the Brownlow story from round 22, 1996

Unfortunately, it seems his media legacy has made him untouchable. And you even get shouted down by fellow bulldogs supporters when you dare question his status.

...Honestly, I am astounded by how since retirement his status in the game has slipped so far down the ladder. At his peak playing CHF, he was the equal of Carey (admittedly, only for two seasons.) When playing back he was the best and fairest player in the comp one season, one errant kick from Steve Wallis away from a Brownlow the previous year as well. He had one of the great debut seasons, book ended with some handy work as a bit parts man late in his career.

Took screamers, kicked goals, showed courage, a great sportsman, sublime field kicking skills.... I just can't understand how easily those people outside our Club have disregarded him. I love the bloke, he was a fixture of the Footscray side I followed from childhood into my early 20's and a great role model. Most games I still take the flag I painted with his image emblazoned on it to games - because he deserves to have a visible legacy.

Behind Glen Archer FFS, that toad.

The fact is we won't see a better footballer in either of our lifetimes than Chris Grant, yet there is at least three Archers running around out there right now.

[LostDoggy]

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I don't think many people realise (media & other fans) he kicked over 550 goals, fair effort considering he was never in a set forward position year after year.

[LostDoggy]

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Probably because he shies away from the same media spotlight that the others court so well. Hard to be noticed when you insist on sitting in a corner at the back of the bar, so to speak…

For me, I'll never forget him saying no to Port, and to me that was the greatest thing a footballer has done in the past 30 or so years — because he singlehandedly gave us all that hope back, the hope that football was still about the game and not about the money, and that not everybody is into material possessions over loyalty and honour and friendship. In an era of Club 10 and million dollar salaries, Chris Grant stood up tall and did the Jerry Maguire.

F**king legend.

[cinder]

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I still haven't replaced the no. 3 on my jumper ...