Round #17 Match Committee

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  • Jasper
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2009
    • 1332

    #16
    Re: Round #17 Match Committee

    Out Hill - my view is he never should have been in.
    Out Reid - seems to struggle

    In - Vezpremi found some form in the twos and its time he was given a chance
    In - Libba

    Not sold on Hooper but probably/maybe did enough to stay, still reckon he looks too slow for a player his size. Grant was ok in patches, his handballs were ordinary..he needs to work on this.
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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13387

      #17
      Re: Round #17 Match Committee

      Originally posted by AndrewP6
      Because some have little faith in Hill, and he doesn't do much to give it to us.
      The MC do and right or wrong I would be appalled to see him dropped for next week unless Barlow, Lake or Hargrave come in which is unlikely. Posters whinge about these cusp players not doing enough, last week a number of us were defending Hooper against the mob, he was very ordinary against the Dees but really turned it around tonight. If the MC are committed to these players they have to leave them in for an extended period because it's not going to happen over 2-3 games.

      I don't think Hill is a good sub, I think he needs to read the play over a period of time rather than adapt ad hoc as a sub. I think he could be a dangerous player for us again and is just terribly down on confidence.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • AndrewP6
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2009
        • 8142

        #18
        Re: Round #17 Match Committee

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        The MC do and right or wrong I would be appalled to see him dropped for next week unless Barlow, Lake or Hargrave come in which is unlikely. Posters whinge about these cusp players not doing enough, last week a number of us were defending Hooper against the mob, he was very ordinary against the Dees but really turned it around tonight. If the MC are committed to these players they have to leave them in for an extended period because it's not going to happen over 2-3 games.

        I don't think Hill is a good sub, I think he needs to read the play over a period of time rather than adapt ad hoc as a sub. I think he could be a dangerous player for us again and is just terribly down on confidence.
        I get what you're saying, but Hill has had more than 2-3 games, he's been there for four years. For mine, doesn't do enough, often enough.
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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: Round #17 Match Committee

          Originally posted by AndrewP6
          I get what you're saying, but Hill has had more than 2-3 games, he's been there for four years. For mine, doesn't do enough, often enough.
          I am not sure what has happened to Josh, but he has definitely showed us all he can play AFL footy.

          He has dropped off a fair bit since 2009, which was by far his best season for the club, where he kicked 30+ goals.

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          • westbulldog
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2009
            • 1840

            #20
            Re: Round #17 Match Committee

            Out - Hill - how did he get back in the frst place ?
            In - Libba

            comment - did anyone notice Panos' pinpoint kicking in the foxtel cup ? what has his form been like at Willi ?

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67706

              #21
              Re: Round #17 Match Committee

              Originally posted by westbulldog
              Out - Hill - how did he get back in the frst place ?
              In - Libba

              comment - did anyone notice Panos' pinpoint kicking in the foxtel cup ? what has his form been like at Willi ?
              I thought Hill was ok when he came on, impacted immediately and picked up 9 disposals.

              Out Reid - very poor

              In: Libba.
              Last edited by Bornadog; 10-07-2011, 09:46 PM.
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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13387

                #22
                Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                Originally posted by Glove38
                I am not sure what has happened to Josh, but he has definitely showed us all he can play AFL footy.

                He has dropped off a fair bit since 2009, which was by far his best season for the club, where he kicked 30+ goals.
                He seems to be terribly out of form. In all fairness he hasn't had much of a run this season either because of it but I think he deserves a few weeks in the side. He was good at times last year.
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                  Hooper easily gets outbodied, spoiled and doesn't have much leg speed for a small guy.

                  I'd like to see Libba come in for him and Hill out for Barlow or Lake (if he is ready)

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67706

                    #24
                    Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                    Originally posted by Danstar
                    Hooper easily gets outbodied, spoiled and doesn't have much leg speed for a small guy.

                    I'd like to see Libba come in for him and Hill out for Barlow or Lake (if he is ready)
                    Happy with Reid's four disposals?
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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9901

                      #25
                      Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Happy with Reid's four disposals?
                      If Hooper got subbed at half time he would have had 0.

                      Not sure on Reid. Couldn't seem to get into it today, I'd still like to give him another go than yo yo him. He would be the one under the pump though.

                      Can't see any changes for next week, again matchups will probably decide the fate of one or a couple of players.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #26
                        Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                        Originally posted by Danstar
                        Hooper easily gets outbodied, spoiled and doesn't have much leg speed for a small guy.

                        I'd like to see Libba come in for him and Hill out for Barlow or Lake (if he is ready)
                        Hooper is more than strong enough and is in the top 4 in the Club for speed over 20m

                        Barlow is injured ( recovering from a finger operation ) , Lake isn,t ready for a recall yet

                        Libba, Wallis , Tutt , Addison and DJ will be in the mix if a change is considered for Reid and Hill

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                        Last edited by LostDoggy; 10-07-2011, 10:30 PM. Reason: missed a couple

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                        • Maddog37
                          WOOF Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3132

                          #27
                          Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                          Not sure anyone was outstanding for the four qtrs for Willy. Vez, Minno, Addison all good in spots as was DJ.


                          Changes for match ups only.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                            Originally posted by West-Dog
                            Hooper is more than strong enough and is in the top 4 in the Club for speed over 20m

                            Barlow is injured ( recovering from a finger operation ) , Lake isn,t ready for a recall yet

                            Libba, Wallis , Tutt will be in the mix if a change is considered for Reid and Hill

                            .
                            Yes ive always read on here that he does well in the clubs speed tests. but i have not seen any of this speed in his 2 games. he seems as fast as Cross...

                            and he never once showed his strength.

                            i don't mind him, but I do think Libba would offer more throughout 4 qtrs

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #29
                              Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                              Hill just divides supporters. My problem with him is he has no physical presence and will always lose the contest if the opponent is desperate enough. Not good traits to have in tough games when everyone needs to pull their weight.
                              On the positive side, I thought Hill turned up to play tonight. Probably appreciative of Rocket giving him another go when many thought his card was stamped. He ran hard, got lots of ball, made good position and read the ball well. Some very good signs.
                              The challenge Hill has though, is that even if he can rediscover his 2009 form, it may not be good enough in the current era when pressure from everyone is a core requirement. Hill needs to get back to his running, leaping, marking, goal-kicking best and there were signs tonight but if he wants a long career, he really needs to add some physical pressure to his game.

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                              • Topdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7483

                                #30
                                Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                                Originally posted by 1eyedog
                                The MC do and right or wrong I would be appalled to see him dropped for next week unless Barlow, Lake or Hargrave come in which is unlikely. Posters whinge about these cusp players not doing enough, last week a number of us were defending Hooper against the mob, he was very ordinary against the Dees but really turned it around tonight. If the MC are committed to these players they have to leave them in for an extended period because it's not going to happen over 2-3 games.

                                I don't think Hill is a good sub, I think he needs to read the play over a period of time rather than adapt ad hoc as a sub. I think he could be a dangerous player for us again and is just terribly down on confidence.
                                I said last week that we should keep Hooper because it is pointless to bring someone in for 1 match and then drop them. Big difference though is that Hooper is a 2nd gamer, Hill is a fairly established player.

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