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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6984

    #1

    List Management

    The thread title is my nice way of saying who are we going to delist.

    The way I see it...

    Retirements/possible retirements?

    Hall- He has announced his retirement. I would love him to recant but he won't.

    Hudson- Bit of a tough call. If he doesn't want to go, do we keep him? Roughead and Cordy are both very fraile and we can easily get ourselves into a lot of trouble if Minson gets an injury. Is it too conservative to keep him? I would only do it if he is happy to keep going for the bare minimum.

    Gilbee- Hear he has a year left on his contract. I would definitely let him go if not.

    Hargrave-I think we are almost obliged to keep him on if his foot is anything resembling OK. Loyalty two way street thing, but I wouldn't be pushing him to stay on unless Wood goes to GWS.

    Delist/Trade?

    Definitely not into the 'lets trade a great servant because he doesn't fit our needs' line of thinking. Odd that the fans who are strongest in that regard are also the most vocal when a player leaves.

    Hill-Just has to go.

    Stack-I have seen improvement in him this season but I just cannot see him ever making it.

    Reid-I love the boy but he is slow, cannot kick and really struggles with the endurance needed at AFL level.

    Addison-Like Reid, I really love the way he goes about it but he just isn't up to it.

    Markovic/Mulligan-Really don't rate either but they both probably have to stay because we simply don't have anything else. Only possible change is if they rate Panos enough or see a state league prospect we can get via GWS.

    Moles-It's harsh but is there much point in keeping a 26 yo runner who will be nothing more than a good servant in the next few years? Depends on others staying or going for mine.

    Upgraded rookies

    Dahlhaus-I guess.

    Barlow-Ed Barlow being a regular part of our 22 is where we are at. Enjoy.
  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    #2
    Re: List Management

    Originally posted by Rocco Jones

    Dahlhaus-I guess.
    If we must...
    [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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    • BulldogBelle
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 5284

      #3
      Re: List Management

      I think we jumped in a little too quickly when we signed Hooper also

      Markovic I would retain, due to our defensive stocks being quite slim if Lake, Williams or Morris get injured

      Mulligan - just doesn't offer anything...no football smarts, no rebound, limited skills, gets led to the football etc

      If Hargrave's foot is OK he should be kept on - think for the role he plays he could offer us quite a bit into his 30s (eg a Darren Milburn type role). Plus if he is placed on the Veterans list he wouldn't cost much to keep.

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      • Rocco Jones
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jun 2008
        • 6984

        #4
        Re: List Management

        Originally posted by Dog House
        I think we jumped in a little too quickly when we signed Hooper
        No doubt about that one. Same with the 3 years DJ got.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45566

          #5
          Re: List Management

          Originally posted by AndrewP6
          If we must...
          Very droll Rocco and Andrew!
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11407

            #6
            Re: List Management

            Originally posted by Rocco Jones

            Barlow-Ed Barlow being a regular part of our 22 is where we are at. Enjoy.
            And we actually rushed him back into the side this week.

            Christ.
            W00F!

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            • Ghost Dog
              WOOF Member
              • May 2010
              • 9404

              #7
              Re: List Management

              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
              And we actually rushed him back into the side this week.

              Christ.
              It ain't pretty, but he was more effective than not V weagles.
              Got to admit it.
              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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              • macca
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 2391

                #8
                Re: List Management

                Grant can be added to that list as well. He is a one trick pony, and does not have the heart to play AFL level. Cant kick straight " see this weekends willi lost" . At 3QTR time against the Roos, the ball was kicked to him, Hill and Goldstein. They didnt even bother providing a contest, and the Roos ended running away with the ball. Trade him now before he loses his value, like Hill who has no value.

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                • kruder
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2011
                  • 3912

                  #9
                  Re: List Management

                  What about Hooper?

                  I've been looking for one AFL attribute that the recruiters may have seen in him but I have yet to find one. He cant find the footy, fumbles, average kick, average speed, bad decision maker.

                  Does he really have a three year deal? If so surely one of the worst deals of all time?

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #10
                    Re: List Management

                    Don't disagree with all of the sentiments here, but won't waste my Monday morning potting players. More than happy to see out the season and see how we deal with it in October.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: List Management

                      Originally posted by macca
                      Grant can be added to that list as well. He is a one trick pony, and does not have the heart to play AFL level. Cant kick straight " see this weekends willi lost" . At 3QTR time against the Roos, the ball was kicked to him, Hill and Goldstein. They didnt even bother providing a contest, and the Roos ended running away with the ball. Trade him now before he loses his value, like Hill who has no value.
                      Agreed. Thinking about him this morning and i just though "Jarrod Oakley-Nicholls".

                      Wouldn't put up Mulligan. Persist with him and let him learn from the likes of Morris, Lake and Williams for another year.

                      Moles - gone
                      Joss Hill - gone
                      Johanisen (sic) - gone.
                      Gilbee (subject to contract) - gone
                      Hahn - gone
                      Hall - gone

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                      • Cyberdoggie
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2861

                        #12
                        Re: List Management

                        Originally posted by M.R.M
                        Wouldn't put up Mulligan. Persist with him and let him learn from the likes of Morris, Lake and Williams for another year.

                        Johanisen (sic) - gone.
                        Mulligan has had plenty of time and has shown very little improvement.
                        I'd prefer they kept Panos if they had to, at least he knows how to play the game, even if he has a lack of pace. Markovic as well can at least spoil and beat his man in physical contests unless he's up against a monster.


                        Johanissen only the 1 year?
                        He may not be showing much now but he is just a baby. I don't think he's even hit puberty yet he looks so young, another year is a given.

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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9901

                          #13
                          Re: List Management

                          Originally posted by kruder
                          What about Hooper?

                          I've been looking for one AFL attribute that the recruiters may have seen in him but I have yet to find one. He cant find the footy, fumbles, average kick, average speed, bad decision maker.

                          Does he really have a three year deal? If so surely one of the worst deals of all time?
                          I believe it's a 2 year deal.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #14
                            Re: List Management

                            Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                            Mulligan has had plenty of time and has shown very little improvement.
                            I'd prefer they kept Panos if they had to, at least he knows how to play the game, even if he has a lack of pace. Markovic as well can at least spoil and beat his man in physical contests unless he's up against a monster.


                            Johanissen only the 1 year?
                            He may not be showing much now but he is just a baby. I don't think he's even hit puberty yet he looks so young, another year is a given.
                            He's played 3 games and he's been injured for most of his formative years at the club.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45566

                              #15
                              Re: List Management

                              Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                              Mulligan has had plenty of time and has shown very little improvement.
                              I'd prefer they kept Panos if they had to, at least he knows how to play the game, even if he has a lack of pace. Markovic as well can at least spoil and beat his man in physical contests unless he's up against a monster.


                              Johanissen only the 1 year?
                              He may not be showing much now but he is just a baby. I don't think he's even hit puberty yet he looks so young, another year is a given.
                              Johanissen was just drafted he get min 2 years on list automatic
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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