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  • The Underdog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2007
    • 6871

    #46
    Re: More Draft Talk

    Originally posted by Billy Blogger
    I agree. You would have to think that we need to select a couple of key positions players with our first three selections though. McEvoy, Henderson and maybe Grant for the first pick and I'm not sure of the others but if we end up with 4 undersized midfielders I don't think it will a great return for us. A couple of good talls and a couple of strong midfielders plus a ruckman will be a good day for us.
    There seems to be enough talls rated in the top 20 that there seems a reasonable chance that there'll be an opportunity to pick up some talls early on. Of course it depends who Clayton likes.

    As for Inside Football, it's always good to get a feel for the players but a lot of the info seems to be u18's coaches taking players up, it doesn't seem as thought the mag does much in the way of research and just repeats info. It's 2 top 10's had us picking Henderson, both compared him to Pavlich. They also seem to miss players. Renton didn't make the list of 200 odd possibles profiled, whereas it would appear he's firmly in the mix to be drafted.
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    • Topdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7471

      #47
      Re: More Draft Talk

      Originally posted by The Underdog
      There seems to be enough talls rated in the top 20 that there seems a reasonable chance that there'll be an opportunity to pick up some talls early on. Of course it depends who Clayton likes.
      Exactly, it looks like it will be fairly easy for us to get 2 talls in the top 20. It's just a matter of making sure that they are both good enough.

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      • southerncross
        Technical Admin
        • Nov 2006
        • 590

        #48
        Re: More Draft Talk

        If the Dogs are to take a delisted player who do you think it might be?
        Bradley?
        Johnson?
        Or someone else?

        If so would we use a 3rd round selction?

        A Geelong mate still thinks Scott Thmpson who played some good footy for them in the VFL would be an ideal player for us to trial for a season. Anyone know much about his?
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        • wimberga
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 851

          #49
          Re: More Draft Talk

          We need a tall forward. But if we take that option through draft, give or take 3-5 years for them to develop. Therefore we are effectively losing out short term. I'd wouldnt mind picking up Chris Masten at pick 5 if he lasted that long, and then going for a tall with pick 19. all guesswork though. Id be just as happy with Henderson at pick 5 though.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #50
            Re: More Draft Talk

            Originally posted by wimberga
            We need a tall forward. But if we take that option through draft, give or take 3-5 years for them to develop. Therefore we are effectively losing out short term. I'd wouldnt mind picking up Chris Masten at pick 5 if he lasted that long, and then going for a tall with pick 19. all guesswork though. Id be just as happy with Henderson at pick 5 though.
            Be interesting to see if we go with our 'best available' ploy of other years or draft for our needs. Personally, I think we have to draft to our needs and select either McEvoy or Henderson or whatever tall Clayton rates at pick 5. It may be after that pick we can go 'best available' but I would lean to the selection of talls over smalls as the general rule.

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            • wimberga
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 851

              #51
              Re: More Draft Talk

              Guess it depends on whether we are trying to nab the flag while we still got Johnno and Westy playing, as you would assume whatever talls we select wont come on in time.
              Last edited by wimberga; 06-11-2007, 08:42 PM. Reason: spelling

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              • Dry Rot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6444

                #52
                Re: More Draft Talk

                Originally posted by wimberga
                Guess it depends on whether we are trying to nab the flag while we still got Johnno and Westy playing, as you would assume whatever talls we select wont come on in time.
                How long do you think they have?

                IMO we need a couple of quality tall forwards to be a real contender.
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                • wimberga
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 851

                  #53
                  Re: More Draft Talk

                  Originally posted by Dry Rot
                  How long do you think they have?

                  IMO we need a couple of quality tall forwards to be a real contender.
                  I think without injuries and best case scenario 2010 would be last chance, so any young forward taken in the draft, you would think, would just be entering the senior side as a force.

                  I am personally of the thought that this year our problems were in midfield, not in the forward line. In 05 we had no problem's scoring, and last year i really just believe that it was because of the massive amounts of pressure we were put under that we couldnt deliver it properly into the forward line.

                  In the case that injuries strike again and we have to resort to bombing it long, a power forward would make very handy, but i think whilst the window is open for Johnno and Westy that we should try play our free flowing style and put our faith in players like Tiller, Mcdougall and Skipper. Eade has also mentioned Minson down front, though im not sure of that suitability

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27655

                    #54
                    Re: More Draft Talk

                    Originally posted by wimberga
                    Eade has also mentioned Minson down front, though im not sure of that suitability



                    What about the "Harris for full forward" move?
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15449

                      #55
                      Re: More Draft Talk

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      What about the "Harris for full forward" move?

                      Are you starting the petition?

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                      • Go_Dogs
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 10154

                        #56
                        Re: More Draft Talk

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        Are you starting the petition?
                        Someone should.

                        Not sure where Torney is at, but he would be one that we could possibly look at in the PSD I think. Don't think we'll look at recycled players in the actual draft, although perhaps we may with a late-ish pick.

                        I do feel that it would be good to add one experienced player to the list, we will be pretty light on this coming season.
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                        • wimberga
                          WOOF Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 851

                          #57
                          Re: More Draft Talk

                          I for one am not fan of moving Harris up front. I am of the belief that when you have a player playing well and earning the clubs best and fairest honours, why change that around? Its one of only a few positions that we actually have held down.

                          Its this simple, move Harris from fullback and opposition full forwards will find next season much easier than they did this season playing on Harris.

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                          • Go_Dogs
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10154

                            #58
                            Re: More Draft Talk

                            I guess a lot of that depends on what we can expect from McDougall, Williams, Everitt and Wight. IMO, we have a good core group of youngsters who can hold together the backline.

                            Lots of top forwards have become top forwards after serving time in the backline or other spots. Not saying Harris will be one of those, but the contested marking ability he showed this year, says to me at least, that he is currently the best candidate to play a role in the forward line.

                            I don't want it to happen at total expense of the backline, but if the club can find some common ground and be sure that the others left in the backline can do a serviceable job, it could help us alot this coming year.
                            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                            • Dogs 24/7
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1197

                              #59
                              Re: More Draft Talk

                              I have read some good things about Tony Notte. Is the the type of player we should look at?

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                              • always right
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 4189

                                #60
                                Re: More Draft Talk

                                Personally I think that all this talk over who we should play up forward i.e. Harris, Williams, McDougall....is wishful thinking. Whichever option we choose, we create a problem elsewhere.

                                Our best bet is to have blokes who can play in multiple positions and throw them around as the game or circumstances dictate. If there are no obvious match-ups for Harris in a particular match, then throw him up forward. You could say the same for a number of our blokes. Williams, Everitt, Hargrave, McDougall, Murphy, Skipper, Tiller, Wight....could all play defence or attack. This sort of flexibility could become a strength with opposition teams unable to plan for players to be in the one position each week.
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