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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

    Originally posted by chef
    But it was him calling the shots, making the moves, picking the side etc etc.

    He is as much a part of the team as the players, any mature supporter knows that.
    Dry Rot / Chef

    make a list of all the things rocket did to justify his removal.

    Glass half empty IMO
    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14617

      Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
      So who would have done a better job than him with the players and resources that we had? have ? What were, for you, the defining blunders of his tenure? Glass half empty?

      IMO, compare drivers of different cars if you will. But Malthouse, Thompson didn't get to where they are by themselves.they have / had assistance and resources our club has / does not have.
      Off the top of my head Clarkson and Lyon would have IMO and both were available at the time of appointing Eade weren't they.

      Sorry, but IMO we had a fantastic player group in the 2007-2010 period.
      The curse is dead.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66700

        Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

        Originally posted by chef
        Off the top of my head Clarkson and Lyon would have IMO and both were available at the time of appointing Eade weren't they.

        Sorry, but IMO we had a fantastic player group in the 2007-2010 period.
        Saints have had one of the best teams in their history during the same period and arguably should have won the 2008 GF as well as the first GF last year. The coach did everything in his power to get them there but in the end, player effort, skill execution, and LUCK played a major part. The coach can only do so much.

        If you have ever been involved in elite sports or any sports you would know this.
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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

          Originally posted by chef
          Off the top of my head Clarkson and Lyon would have IMO and both were available at the time of appointing Eade weren't they.

          Sorry, but IMO we had a fantastic player group in the 2007-2010 period.
          Believe in the Myth of the super coach if it floats your boat.



          Article above pretty much says it all.
          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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          • Maddog37
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3132

            Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
            No better example of this than Denis Pagan at the Blues.

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            • anfo27
              WOOF Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2002

              Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

              Originally posted by Greystache
              Great posts The Rocket, mirror my feelings exactly.
              Same here, super post.

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              • Ghost Dog
                WOOF Member
                • May 2010
                • 9404

                Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

                Originally posted by chef
                But it was him calling the shots, making the moves, picking the side etc etc.

                He is as much a part of the team as the players, any mature supporter knows that.
                If he is as much a part of the team as the players, then why, after 7 years, won't he get a send off, like every other long serving player would?
                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                • ledge
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 14304

                  Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

                  Think I found out why Eade wasnt re-signed, he had an undercover job doing car insurance adds..Fantastikerrrrr!
                  Bring back the biff

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7471

                    Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

                    Originally posted by chef
                    Off the top of my head Clarkson and Lyon would have IMO and both were available at the time of appointing Eade weren't they.

                    Sorry, but IMO we had a fantastic player group in the 2007-2010 period.
                    This would be the same Lyon that was tactically outclassed in a prelim not long ago only to have a completely ridiculous free go his way to get momentum, and a super effort from his superstar in Reiwoldt to get him over the line.

                    Say what you like about the strength of our squad / list but 1 thing it always lacked was a real superstar. The only one we had was always injured during finals.

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                    • Dogmatic

                      Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

                      Originally posted by Topdog
                      This would be the same Lyon that was tactically outclassed in a prelim not long ago only to have a completely ridiculous free go his way to get momentum, and a super effort from his superstar in Reiwoldt to get him over the line.

                      Say what you like about the strength of our squad / list but 1 thing it always lacked was a real superstar. The only one we had was always injured during finals.
                      I don't think eade ever tactically outclassed Lyon in 2009/10, look at our record against the saints. I don't think we beat them at all in this period.

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                      • Dogmatic

                        Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Saints have had one of the best teams in their history during the same period and arguably should have won the 2008 GF as well as the first GF last year. The coach did everything in his power to get them there but in the end, player effort, skill execution, and LUCK played a major part. The coach can only do so much.

                        If you have ever been involved in elite sports or any sports you would know this.
                        Yes saints have had some good players but they have a fair few duds in their team like ray, peake, Clarke, Blake. These player wouldn't have got a game at bulldogs, cats, pies teams of 2009 & 2010. Lyon made them a great team.

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                        • chef
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14617

                          Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

                          Originally posted by Topdog;234451[B
                          ]This would be the same Lyon that was tactically outclassed in a prelim not long ago[/B] only to have a completely ridiculous free go his way to get momentum, and a super effort from his superstar in Reiwoldt to get him over the line.

                          Say what you like about the strength of our squad / list but 1 thing it always lacked was a real superstar. The only one we had was always injured during finals.
                          Don't agree with that.

                          To me it was an arm wrestle that could have gone either way. IMO we had a better list than the Saints, but they were better coached.
                          The curse is dead.

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15445

                            Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

                            Originally posted by chef
                            Don't agree with that.

                            To me it was an arm wrestle that could have gone either way. IMO we had a better list than the Saints, but they were better coached.
                            Not in that game they weren't.

                            Hayes & Riewoldt got them over the line... oh and some dodgy calls from the white maggots.

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                            • The Pie Man
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2008
                              • 3497

                              Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              Not in that game they weren't.

                              Hayes & Riewoldt got them over the line... oh and some dodgy calls from the white maggots.
                              And our inability to close it out when presented with some opportunities in the last quarter (Gilbee/Gia - though Gia's was tough) as well as kicking 2.5 in the first quarter when all over them.

                              That game still - and I fear will continue to - haunts me (can only imagine how the players feel) Especially when the GF the next week was wet, negating the power forward influence on the contest that we didn't have.
                              Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: Press conference midday - Eade ?

                                Originally posted by chef
                                IMO we had a better list than the Saints, but they were better coached.
                                IMHO, the opposite. Sure they had a couple of duds (Baker's not one of them, and lots of those 'duds' are playing pretty well this season), but a Hayes and Riewoldt (especially) make up for a lot of duds -- one superstar equals many many normal players. We didn't really have a top-liner in that game (of course Coons was out) except Griff trying to be one and Murph kicking his long bombs on top of the head of Gilbert and Fisher.

                                No one gave us a chance going into the game (I remember talkback radio all abuzz about who was going to take Goddard etc. and the odds were pretty clearly favouring the Saints as well) and but for kicking straighter, and Gia's shot at the end, would have pulled of a famous upset, with Goddard a non-factor on the night.

                                Rocket couldn't have done much more in that game.

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