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  • anfo27
    WOOF Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2002

    #31
    Re: Its done now,who will take over?

    Originally posted by bornadog
    No thank you, never had his heart in the bulldogs previously and walked out when the going got tough. Rocket is a mile better person than Malthouse and would have had 5 premierships if he had the resources and playing group Malthouse has. (maybe exaggerated but I am angry at the moment)
    Thats fine but that was a long time ago and very unique circumstances. Do you know if Mick holds any grudges towards us from those dark days?

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    • BulldogBelle
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 5284

      #32
      Re: Its done now,who will take over?

      Originally posted by Scraggers
      First, I do not understand the decision to get rid of Eade. I have stated publicly that I believed he was the best man for the job ... that aside, appointing an un-tried senior coach sends this club backwards.

      Appointing an un-tried senior coach who has not been a part of a leadership team that has tasted that ultimate glory is ludicrous.

      I have no ill-feeling towards Leon, in fact, in all my dealings with him, he has be very nice and very approachable ... he is just not the man to lead this club.

      I am very angry right now, and I will probably renew my membership regardless.
      I was willing to be part of a rebuild under Rocket ... four or five years to taste that ultimate success was worth it. Yes he has been at the club for seven years, and had his chance ... he got close, but injuries, retirements, and deserters hid harder than first thought.

      To refresh under an untried coach ... stinks of Rhode.
      My thoughts exactly. I wanted a rebuild under Eade. Man, I am so down about this. He loved this club. He would have been a bulldog legend.

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      • SquirrelGrip
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2007
        • 1524

        #33
        Re: Its done now,who will take over?

        Originally posted by Hotdog60
        Bring back Terry Wheeler, he was ahead of his time.
        Here here!
        "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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        • the banker
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 453

          #34
          Re: Its done now,who will take over?

          I would hope we can attract Leigh Matthews to the selection panel. That is one guy who knows what it takes.

          Not Paul Roos or Robert Walls.
          WesternOval'61

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          • the banker
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 453

            #35
            Re: Its done now,who will take over?

            Would everyone please stop bringing up the Rhode nonsense.

            Leave it behind, it's as if you are wishing it on the Club.

            The Western Bulldogs make successful decisions, appointing Malthouse, appointing Eade far out weigh the Rhode mistake. Forget it! Move on and think success.
            WesternOval'61

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66828

              #36
              Re: Its done now,who will take over?

              Originally posted by kruder
              The Rhode situation was totally different. It was all about money. He never had any significant creditials and to refer every up and coming coach in the country to him is a joke.
              Must be a happy day for you.
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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                #37
                Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                Originally posted by anfo27
                My dream appointment would be Malthouse and if there is any chance at all we should move heaven and earth to get him. I have heard things like he would never come back to the club, maybe some more knowledgable woofers can fill us in as to his bitteness towards our club.
                I've also heard we can't afford Malthouse but i would of thought whatever you pay him you would get that back with an increase in membership and sponsorship.
                In Malthouses 6th season with Collingwood they finished with 5 wins. They kept him on. Took him 10 years to win a premiership with Collingwood. He is not the Messiah people think but has had enormous resources to rely on in his tenure at Collingwood unlike Rocket at our Club. We should have kept Rocket.

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                • The Coon Dog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7579

                  #38
                  Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                  Its probably the wrong thing to say, but right at the moment I couldn't give a stuff about who our coach will be. Still very angry about the decision this morning & the poor effort of David Smorgon in the media attempting to justify it.
                  [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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                  • anfo27
                    WOOF Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2002

                    #39
                    Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                    is it a secret cause i'd love to know why after 20 odd years he still is bitter?

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                    • anfo27
                      WOOF Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2002

                      #40
                      Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                      Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                      In Malthouses 6th season with Collingwood they finished with 5 wins. They kept him on. Took him 10 years to win a premiership with Collingwood. He is not the Messiah people think but has had enormous resources to rely on in his tenure at Collingwood unlike Rocket at our Club. We should have kept Rocket.
                      he took them to back to back grand finals before that. Rocket has been great for our club but comparing him to the Malthouse situation a few years back is rubbish. If rocket took us to a grand final he would still be there and a prelim is nowhere near a grand final even if you have 3 of them.
                      Its not just about the resources that Mick has its what he does with his list, the respect he demands from his players, the integration of the young kids over the last 3-4 to create such a strong list. His depth is 30 odd players deep, some of that has to be because of the way he runs things.

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                      • The Pie Man
                        Coaching Staff
                        • May 2008
                        • 3497

                        #41
                        Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                        Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                        Its probably the wrong thing to say, but right at the moment I couldn't give a stuff about who our coach will be. Still very angry about the decision this morning & the poor effort of David Smorgon in the media attempting to justify it.
                        Patchy performance in the interview on SEN just before too (though I always get the feeling Frank really doesn't like Smorgon anyway)

                        Ox mentioned briefly that we'd spoken to Scott Burns.....now I think of Scott Burns and think 'leader' Why don't I get the same vibe from Leon Cameron?

                        Probably a question for another day, ordinary day for the club and the Clarkson style fairytale doesn't look likely (anyone remember Quartermain announcing his appointment on Ch 10 news then signing off that the Hawks are 'struggling'?)
                        Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          #42
                          Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                          Originally posted by anfo27
                          he took them to back to back grand finals before that. Rocket has been great for our club but comparing him to the Malthouse situation a few years back is rubbish. If rocket took us to a grand final he would still be there and a prelim is nowhere near a grand final even if you have 3 of them.
                          Its not just about the resources that Mick has its what he does with his list, the respect he demands from his players, the integration of the young kids over the last 3-4 to create such a strong list. His depth is 30 odd players deep, some of that has to be because of the way he runs things.
                          You can put any spin on it you want but the fact is it took Malthouse 10 years to win a flag at Collingwood. Rocket has been with us 7 years. I believe that it IS about the resources that coaches have at their disposal. We agree to differ.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #43
                            Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                            I'am bitterly disappointed as well, but in the cold light of day, it is the club I love and support and I will love and respect anyone who plays for or coaches us. Geez I even got to LOVE AKER!, mind you that love has now turned to hate, now he is no longer with us. Thank you Rocket for everything you have done for our club, I thought you should be re signed, but you have not been, so we have to move on, the club is greater than the the individual. I still think with the same resources as he powerhouse clubs Rocke would have won us a premiership or two.

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                            • Dry Rot
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6448

                              #44
                              Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                              Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                              You can put any spin on it you want but the fact is it took Malthouse 10 years to win a flag at Collingwood. Rocket has been with us 7 years. I believe that it IS about the resources that coaches have at their disposal. We agree to differ.
                              The problem with your argument is that we are in a steep decline which may not bottom for a year or two.

                              So Eade still wouldn't have one with us if he had a new 3 year contract.
                              The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                              • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8970

                                #45
                                Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                                Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                                In Malthouses 6th season with Collingwood they finished with 5 wins. They kept him on. Took him 10 years to win a premiership with Collingwood. He is not the Messiah people think but has had enormous resources to rely on in his tenure at Collingwood unlike Rocket at our Club. We should have kept Rocket.
                                And there is the difference between them and us. They are able to evaluate their situation with professionalism and if the hard decision is to keep the course with their current coach, they do it.

                                We're so desperate for success that we are unable to see the forest for the trees. We hit a significant bump in our charted course and the conclusions seems to be 'sack the coach', as if that automatically consitutes the hard decision that will see us resume our course for a Premiership.
                                Given the relative lack of resources at Eade's disposal I think he has done a valiant job.
                                I shudder to think what a less credentialled coach will do.

                                If the club was really serious it would've followed through with a proper evaluation of the whole organisation from top down, instead it appears as if they've just merely papered over the cracks and in the process have probably gotten rid of the wrong person.
                                I must admit as soon as I heard Fantasia was on the panel overseeing the coaching decision I thought it would end up a Kangaroo court. Fantasia is hardly going to broach issues or problems that would bring into question his role in our current circumstances.

                                Any attempt at a professional coaching review process, would've identified that it might be a conflict of interest to include Fantasia from being involved in that process, when there just might be a case to be made that he might be part of the problem.

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