Its done now,who will take over?

[comrade]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

It's the elephant in the room but he had a positive relationship with a lot of influential posters here and I think that has at the very least contributed to the melancholy feel here since his departure.

The elephant in the room? You mention it all the time

[boydogs]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

But the club can give us stronger and more truthful reasons for their decisions without assassinating the character of the person being sacked.

I've been harping on about club communication all season, but I don't see how they could.

Let's say it was because Eade's message was stale, he didn't adjust to the zone, didn't coach the mids to work defensively, and didn't have the gameplan to beat the best teams and win finals.

How do you put that without tarnishing his name?

For all the negativity surrounding his sacking, it is really an optimistic decision in suggesting that we can do better than what we have.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

The elephant in the room? You mention it all the time

Do I? Oh well, if this forum was a house, then the threads would be rooms. Plenty of elephants!

Still hard to disagree. So many posters who used to hammer others for mindless negativity have suddenly turned emo!

[LostDoggy]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

I didn't have a personal relationship with Rocket.

I'm emo because we're behaving like an unstable, backstabbing club full of hidden, personal agendas. How's that worked out for Richmond over the years?

Strong clubs don't do crap to look strong.

[Bornadog]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

I appreciate all that Eade has done for the club but I think the overall views on him here are rather warped. It's the elephant in the room but he had a positive relationship with a lot of influential posters here and I think that has at the very least contributed to the melancholy feel here since his departure.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about this as you keep bringing it up?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

I've been harping on about club communication all season, but I don't see how they could.

Let's say it was because Eade's message was stale, he didn't adjust to the zone, didn't coach the mids to work defensively, and didn't have the gameplan to beat the best teams and win finals.

How do you put that without tarnishing his name?

For all the negativity surrounding his sacking, it is really an optimistic decision in suggesting that we can do better than what we have.

They could have tried to sell a compelling vision of the future. Tell us what they're going to do with the football department, talk about a strategy of change ie. how we are going to be more competitive of just 'change for the sake of it'. Tell us why Rocket wasn't the right person and give us some strong ideas about what they were looking for instead.

Splitting hairs about a 'refresh' rather than a 'rebuild', saying that they didn't even have a Plan B, admitting that their schedule was forced on them, having a review of the coach without a review of the football department.. all amateur hour mistakes.

Instead of selling any visions, it was instead an incredibly defensive performance loaded with spin and had all the atmosphere of a wake. Whoever's running our media strategy is not much of a strategist. We have one of the lowest memberships going around, selling realistic hope would be a good start (and 'change for the sake of change' isn't a strong message by any standards).

[Sedat]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

I'm emo because we're behaving like an unstable, backstabbing club full of hidden, personal agendas.

It certainly appears that way.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

ps. You know how I know we did a crap job at the press conference (other than listening to it)? Every paper went with the 'poor Rocket, hard done by, stupid crazy impatient Bulldogs' angle the next few days, and commentators didn't buy the 'refresh/rebuild' stuff (and instead ridiculed it, actually). We didn't get our agenda across at all, and failed to convince a single person to advocate for the Dogs vision or position (probably because we didn't have one).

You see Eddie take charge of the agenda of a press conference and sell a vision, the next day some reporters almost become Collingwood apologists. That's what a strong key message does, and we certainly didn't have one that day.

[Bornadog]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

They could have tried to sell a compelling vision of the future. Tell us what they're going to do with the football department, talk about a strategy of change ie. how we are going to be more competitive of just 'change for the sake of it'. Tell us why Rocket wasn't the right person and give us some strong ideas about what they were looking for instead.

Splitting hairs about a 'refresh' rather than a 'rebuild', saying that they didn't even have a Plan B, admitting that their schedule was forced on them, having a review of the coach without a review of the football department.. all amateur hour mistakes.

Instead of selling any visions, it was instead an incredibly defensive performance loaded with spin and had all the atmosphere of a wake. Whoever's running our media strategy is not much of a strategist. We have one of the lowest memberships going around, selling realistic hope would be a good start (and 'change for the sake of change' isn't a strong message by any standards).

Yes smacked of a quick fix ala Rhodes appointment.

We were told at the start of the year there would be a thorough process. We were told the same after the West Coast thrashing, ie no knee jerk reactions. Yet a decision was made within a day of Rockets manager asking where are we at.

[Dry Rot]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

What about the Geelong assistant who lost out to Scott?

Sanderson sp? Has he applied?

Glad Neeld has applied. Hope the process is fair and not just a Cameron fait accompli.

[Sedat]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

Hope the process is fair and not just a Cameron fait accompli.

Bookies odds of $1.40 would strongly point to a fait accompli. Bookies aren't in the business of giving money away to mug punters.

The very least the club can do is to submit all available candidates through a thorough and exhaustive application process in order to get the best possible available candidate. Window dressing a few interviews and coming up with the red-hot favourite is not going to cut the mustard and is certainly not 'respecting the process' (to quote our CEO ad nauseum all season, or at least until said process was abruptly shortened).

[Greystache]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

Yes smacked of a quick fix ala Rhodes appointment.

We were told at the start of the year there would be a thorough process. We were told the same after the West Coast thrashing, ie no knee jerk reactions. Yet a decision was made within a day of Rockets manager asking where are we at.

It's also possible his plan presented to the panel was so far off the mark in their eyes that the decision made itself. Perhaps they thought Leon Cameron is a far better person to coach the club next year, and there are potentially even better candidates than him in the market, so Eade is an automatic no.

Just saying we have no idea what the drivers behind the decision were.

[Dry Rot]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

It's also possible his plan presented to the panel was so far off the mark in their eyes that the decision made itself.

My concern is that Eade presented a realistic view they didn't want to hear.

[Greystache]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

My concern is that Eade presented a realistic view they didn't want to hear.

Could well be the case, there's a lot of speculation being thrown about.

[boydogs]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

They could have tried to sell a compelling vision of the future. Tell us what they're going to do with the football department, talk about a strategy of change ie. how we are going to be more competitive of just 'change for the sake of it'. Tell us why Rocket wasn't the right person and give us some strong ideas about what they were looking for instead.

The three key things you are asking for couldn't be delivered. The football department review was still going, detailing the reasons for Eade's sacking would have hurt his chances in other roles, and presenting the future direction requires the new coach to be on board.

The press conference saying not much more than 'we think we have gone as far as we can with Eade' was all we could present at the time. If we don't hear a clear plan from the new coach once appointed and clear report on findings and actions from the football department review, then that's when I will start to be critical.