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  • stefoid
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2009
    • 1846

    Our assistants

    New coach usually brings his own team.

    Which of our current assistants are any good?

    I have nothing to go on, but I get the feeling that Peter Dean and Peter German are decent?

    I have no opinion on williams either way. just wouldnt have a clue.
  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15304

    #2
    Re: Our assistants

    According to David Smorgon Brett Montgomery & Paul Williams are contracted and Peter Dean contract is up for renewal.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18029

      #3
      Re: Our assistants

      Originally posted by azabob
      According to David Smorgon Brett Montgomery & Paul Williams are contracted and Peter Dean contract is up for renewal.
      Pay them out and start fresh.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • Rocco Jones
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jun 2008
        • 6932

        #4
        Re: Our assistants

        Originally posted by comrade
        Pay them out and start fresh.
        No point just paying them out. Surely they can make coffee and such while the adults speak.

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        • Greystache
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          #5
          Re: Our assistants

          Originally posted by Rocco Jones
          No point just paying them out. Surely they can make coffee and such while the adults speak.
          What's their driving like? Perhaps they can replace old mate in the golf buggy.
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66700

            #6
            Re: Our assistants

            Originally posted by Greystache
            What's their driving like? Perhaps they can replace old mate in the golf buggy.
            that is funny
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              #7
              Re: Our assistants

              I had Peter Dean as a coach in my last year of u18's, best coach I've had for sure. I'm probably biased but I'd hate to see him go, he's done a good job with our back line.

              I'm of the opinion that Brett Montgomery is no good, but that's more of a hunch then anything.

              If Williams wants the coaching position next year and doesn't get it he may leave anyway.

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15445

                #8
                Re: Our assistants

                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                No point just paying them out. Surely they can make coffee and such while the adults speak.
                That's rather immature RJ... nah *!*!*!*! it it's really immature as you have no idea how good these guys are at their jobs.... just like the rest of us.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66700

                  #9
                  Re: Our assistants

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  That's rather immature RJ... nah *!*!*!*! it it's really immature as you have no idea how good these guys are at their jobs.... just like the rest of us.
                  I agree Mantis. None of us know what these assistants are like.

                  We know that Williams must be fairly impressive as he has had two years at Melbourne then came to us and was made senior assistant this year. Surely if he wasn't that good Rocket would not have promoted him.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Greystache
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    #10
                    Re: Our assistants

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    I agree Mantis. None of us know what these assistants are like.

                    We know that Williams must be fairly impressive as he has had two years at Melbourne then came to us and was made senior assistant this year. Surely if he wasn't that good Rocket would not have promoted him.
                    Yet without Barry last year our forward line would've been dysfunctional, and this year we're getting killed at the stoppages and look powerless to control the oppositions attacking midfielders, neither of those point to Williams making a significant improvement to our onfield efforts.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66700

                      #11
                      Re: Our assistants

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      Yet without Barry last year our forward line would've been dysfunctional, and this year we're getting killed at the stoppages and look powerless to control the oppositions attacking midfielders, neither of those point to Williams making a significant improvement to our onfield efforts.
                      That doesn't mean anything if you don't have the good players to work with.

                      Coaches can only do so much then its up to the players, you should know you have been involved at a high level in sports.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • the banker
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 453

                        #12
                        Re: Our assistants

                        If we have a first year coach, say Neeld, Sanderson, Scott or Cameron, Dean Laidley could be a great asset as the head Assistant - if the personal dynamics were right.
                        WesternOval'61

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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          #13
                          Re: Our assistants

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          That doesn't mean anything if you don't have the good players to work with.

                          Coaches can only do so much then its up to the players, you should know you have been involved at a high level in sports.
                          Last year playing Higgins, Johnson, Hahn, and Hall in the same foward line was obsurd, that's not a personell issue that's poor coaching. The fact that other than Hahn none of them even considered applying defensive pressure when our forward line was the starting point for most of the oppositions goals, and yet were never held accountable is a major failure of the coaching staff.

                          Surely you can't be saying our midfield is a weakness this year? Boyd, Griffen, Cross and Ward have all had injury free seasons, Libba has been a strong contributor, we picked up Sherman, and Cooney had only missed a few games before our season was shot. You can't blame personell for losing the midfield battle on a regular basis. If it wasn't working then make some changes, we didn't, we went with the same set up week after week so they must have been happy with how we were going about it.

                          Personally I cant remember the last time a midfielder blocked or laid a shepherd for a team mate to create some space, perhaps we thought that was a fad too.
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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #14
                            Re: Our assistants

                            Originally posted by Greystache
                            Last year playing Higgins, Johnson, Hahn, and Hall in the same foward line was obsurd, that's not a personell issue that's poor coaching. The fact that other than Hahn none of them even considered applying defensive pressure when our forward line was the starting point for most of the oppositions goals, and yet were never held accountable is a major failure of the coaching staff.

                            Surely you can't be saying our midfield is a weakness this year? Boyd, Griffen, Cross and Ward have all had injury free seasons, Libba has been a strong contributor, we picked up Sherman, and Cooney had only missed a few games before our season was shot. You can't blame personell for losing the midfield battle on a regular basis. If it wasn't working then make some changes, we didn't, we went with the same set up week after week so they must have been happy with how we were going about it.

                            Personally I cant remember the last time a midfielder blocked or laid a shepherd for a team mate to create some space, perhaps we thought that was a fad too.
                            You're such a cheerful bloke Greystache!

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                            • stefoid
                              Senior Player
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1846

                              #15
                              Re: Our assistants

                              Is Williams deluded? He has put himself up for the top job? We sacked Eade on the grounds we needed a fresh change through the place and he thinks we are then going to appoint Eades senior assistant instead?

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