Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

[Desipura]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

Back on topic, Williams on SEN did not instill any confidence in me that he was the man for the top job.
When quizzed about he may replace Hall he replied we would look within and possibly look at a defender playing full forward.
When asked if that backman was Lake, he is one they could look at was his reply.

Seriously, the guy was an AA full back last year, what makes him think he could turn Lake at 30yo into a successful
full forward????????

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

Back on topic, Williams on SEN did not instill any confidence in me that he was the man for the top job.
When quizzed about he may replace Hall he replied we would look within and possibly look at a defender playing full forward.
When asked if that backman was Lake, he is one they could look at was his reply.

Seriously, the guy was an AA full back last year, what makes him think he could turn Lake at 30yo into a successful
full forward????????

Plenty of guys in the history of the game have had mobility issues and were summarily plonked in the square to sink or swim.
Could be just the spark to get his confidence up. Kick a few bags

[Flamethrower]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

Back on topic, Williams on SEN did not instill any confidence in me that he was the man for the top job.
When quizzed about he may replace Hall he replied we would look within and possibly look at a defender playing full forward.
When asked if that backman was Lake, he is one they could look at was his reply.

Seriously, the guy was an AA full back last year, what makes him think he could turn Lake at 30yo into a successful
full forward????????

1. Brian was a forward when recruited by the club.

2. Alistair Lynch did the same and helped the Lions to 3 straight premierships.

The biggest difference to our game style against Port was that there was more emphasis on defensive running, with the forwards and mids pushing back deeper than they did under Rocket. Willo mentioned that this would happen at one of his pressers during the week leading up to the game so it was no surprise.

As for the observation that our forward press seemed to work better, that had everything to do with the opposition. They were insipid at stoppages allowing us to continually pump the ball forward, and had a near zero workrate when trying to clear our zone which allowed us multiple repeat inside 50s. In fact if it wasn't for Jackson Trengove, we may have put 20 goals on them in the 1st quarter.

[Desipura]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

1. Brian was a forward when recruited by the club.

2. Alistair Lynch did the same and helped the Lions to 3 straight premierships.

The biggest difference to our game style against Port was that there was more emphasis on defensive running, with the forwards and mids pushing back deeper than they did under Rocket. Willo mentioned that this would happen at one of his pressers during the week leading up to the game so it was no surprise.

As for the observation that our forward press seemed to work better, that had everything to do with the opposition. They were insipid at stoppages allowing us to continually pump the ball forward, and had a near zero workrate when trying to clear our zone which allowed us multiple repeat inside 50s. In fact if it wasn't for Jackson Trengove, we may have put 20 goals on them in the 1st quarter.

I am fully aware of Brian coming to us as a forward, if he was any good at it, he would have made a career out of it.
Lynch played forward at Fitzroy before going back then playing forward again

[GVGjr]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

Back on topic, Williams on SEN did not instill any confidence in me that he was the man for the top job.
When quizzed about he may replace Hall he replied we would look within and possibly look at a defender playing full forward.
When asked if that backman was Lake, he is one they could look at was his reply.

Seriously, the guy was an AA full back last year, what makes him think he could turn Lake at 30yo into a successful
full forward????????

I don't think West or Williams have given themselves any chance with their on air performances. Both of them seem to search for answers.

Regarding Lake to the forward line, there might just be some question marks on him regaining the type of fitness to get him back to AA full back type form. I think Lake to the forward line in some capacity might be something a few coaches consider.

[Desipura]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

I don't think West or Williams have given themselves any chance with their on air performances. Both of them seem to search for answers.

Regarding Lake to the forward line, there might just be some question marks on him regaining the type of fitness to get him back to AA full back type form. I think Lake to the forward line in some capacity might be something a few coaches consider.

If they are looking for a rap artist, look no further than Paul Williams, he could release his very own "studder rap" version

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

I like the way Williams presents himself, and his 'look after your mates' mantra.
Thought his assessment of the game was fair.
Still think he's perhaps not the right person for the job.
Need someone to make the hard calls on underperforming players.

[boydogs]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

I heard Williams on SEN this morning. He was asked the question whether the game plan was different. He said the only difference was the all players had to run back an extra 30 to 40 yards to help out. Said he was very happy with the first 3 quarters but players had tired in the last as they were not used to it.

Anyone else shake their head hearing this?

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

Anyone else shake their head hearing this?

I think that comment was for last weeks game??

[boydogs]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

I think that comment was for last weeks game??

I'm sure it was, just remarking that the players (a) weren't used to running defensively under Eade, and (b) weren't fit enough to keep it up all game.

It says to me that Eade coached a team of front runners. No wonder we had so much trouble against top 4 sides and in finals when defense is required.

[Bornadog]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

I'm sure it was, just remarking that the players (a) weren't used to running defensively under Eade, and (b) weren't fit enough to keep it up all game.

It says to me that Eade coached a team of front runners. No wonder we had so much trouble against top 4 sides and in finals when defense is required.

I can't agree with this. The reason for the extra running was to protect the undermanned backline. Williams felt that with an inexperienced backline, the mids had to run back more to try and help the defence out.

Your comment on Eade is far from correct.

[boydogs]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

I can't agree with this. The reason for the extra running was to protect the undermanned backline. Williams felt that with an inexperienced backline, the mids had to run back more to try and help the defence out.

Your comment on Eade is far from correct.

Williams is spot on. But Eade was the coach for our first 19 games this year, with much the same backline, and yet it appears he didn't train or condition the mids to work defensively.

Seems to me we got away with it a bit from 2008-2010 because Lake, Morris, Hargrave, Gilbee, Harbrow, Williams etc. were better able to cope, but that this year Eade didn't adjust.

[ledge]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

Williams is spot on. But Eade was the coach for our first 19 games this year, with much the same backline, and yet it appears he didn't train or condition the mids to work defensively.

Seems to me we got away with it a bit from 2008-2010 because Lake, Morris, Hargrave, Gilbee, Harbrow, Williams etc. were better able to cope, but that this year Eade didn't adjust.

We could back our defense to get the ball with those players but with the younger ones we cant.

[boydogs]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

We could back our defense to get the ball with those players but with the younger ones we cant.

Why did it take Williams to realise this?

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Did you detect a difference in Williams coaching style?

Why did it take Williams to realise this?

Because for much of the year we had Morris and Williams down back? Our current backline over the past couple of weeks is the most decimated its been and I think that has a lot to do with it. I don't think your implication that midfielders weren't expected to work back defensively is right - simply it has required a stronger emphasis the past couple of games.