Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

[LostDoggy]

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Is Dimma a healer of people? Can he bring people together? Is he a natural leader? Is he a good listener? Can he inspire?

It's a whole lot more than just bringing businessmen and money to the club.

Anything less and we can quickly descend into bitter in fighting.

Very important for our future direction that we get this one right.

Was not Alberti Smorgon's candidate of choice some time ago?

[Bornadog]

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Dimma has been very good at floating his name each year for the top job but he hasn't stepped up in anyway.

Does this guy tick any of the boxes for the President of our club? Personally I don't see it.

His name popped up last year and Garlick asked him to back off as the timing wasn't right.

None of us know whether he ticks the boxes, but sounds like he has some ideas we should listen to.

If we have a VFL team, I prefer not to be called Footscray, but doesn't fuss me either.

[Bornadog]

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The bit you love in the article is the bit that tells me he probably is not the right person for the job.
You think changing the name back to Footscray is needed?
This will be a wrong move that will set us back even further.

Why would someone who is new to the game that has moved into Point Cook for eg want to associate with a club called Footscray? A suburb that has not got the best reputation.
The name change will predominantly please the old people, leave the name as is as it associates with the whole Western Region.

As they say, this is why the windscreen of your car is bigger than the review mirror.

If you read the article you would see he was talking about the VFL side being called Footscray.

The bit I liked was bringing to the table some successful business people with money.

Smorgon has done a fantastic job for the club, but its time for a change.

[Bornadog]

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Is Dimma a healer of people? Can he bring people together? Is he a natural leader? Is he a good listener? Can he inspire?

It's a whole lot more than just bringing businessmen and money to the club.

Anything less and we can quickly descend into bitter in fighting.

Very important for our future direction that we get this one right.

Was not Alberti Smorgon's candidate of choice some time ago?

Is Alberti?

[LostDoggy]

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The bit you love in the article is the bit that tells me he probably is not the right person for the job.
You think changing the name back to Footscray is needed?
This will be a wrong move that will set us back even further.

Why would someone who is new to the game that has moved into Point Cook for eg want to associate with a club called Footscray? A suburb that has not got the best reputation.
The name change will predominantly please the old people, leave the name as is as it associates with the whole Western Region.

As they say, this is why the windscreen of your car is bigger than the review mirror.

Spot on Desi. I'm all for respecting tradition, but not when it impedes future progress. Changing the name of the Bulldogs, whilst painful for those of us who remember the 'Scray, was the best thing this club has done in 50 years, for the exact reasons you specified.

If you read the article you would see he was talking about the VFL side being called Footscray.

The bit I liked was bringing to the table some successful business people with money.

Smorgon has done a fantastic job for the club, but its time for a change.

Bringing people with money is one thing, but how much are they committed to actually spending on the club? That might sound a stupid question, but I'd be afraid of a group of businessmen waving money at a club like ours, effectively holding the club to ransom to ensure every decision is their way or the highway. Paying off the debt would be fantastic, but I'd be more interested in what their ideas were to grow the club's finances organically. Smorgon has plenty of cash. Having a fat wallet does not make you a good administrator of a football club.

Why do people think Dimma isn't the man for the job?

I think his reputation and integrity took a hit during the 2011 stoush. I don't want a man who won't put his money where his mouth is. I'm not sure that's the case, I don't know what was happening behind the scenes, but I'm hesitant until I know otherwise.

That's just speaking for myself, of course.

A better question: Why do you think Dimma is the man for the job?

[Desipura]

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If you read the article you would see he was talking about the VFL side being called Footscray.

The bit I liked was bringing to the table some successful business people with money.

Smorgon has done a fantastic job for the club, but its time for a change.

I did read the article and come to the same conclusion that he would look to change the name back to Footscray.

[LostDoggy]

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Why do people think Dimma isn't the man for the job?

Exactly. I know very little about the man aside from the fact that he has been successful in business, however there must be some other qualities he possesses to even be considered.

[LostDoggy]

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I think going back to Footscray would be silly. It would show that we think we've failed and are all over the place in where want to head.

[Bornadog]

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I did read the article and come to the same conclusion that he would look to change the name back to Footscray.

I don't believe you can read

If he was to win power, it's believed Dimattina would ensure the Bulldogs fielded a stand-alone VFL team in 2014 and would name this club, Footscray, as the Bulldogs had been known until 1997.

[jeemak]

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Why do people think Dimma isn't the man for the job?

Probably because they haven't seen evidence of his ability to run businesses other than restaurants.

He may well be a very capable people manager, and he might have skills to make him capable of running a diverse business such as a football club.

I haven't seen that though, but I'd be happy to be shown otherwise.

[LostDoggy]

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The way I read it. Dimma has more passion now for the club than Smorgan has displayed in the last 12 months. Can't be a bad thing.

[LostDoggy]

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Probably because they haven't seen evidence of his ability to run businesses other than restaurants.

He may well be a very capable people manager, and he might have skills to make him capable of running a diverse business such as a football club.

I haven't seen that though, but I'd be happy to be shown otherwise.

Without seeing him in the role not sure you can judge that. I believe Peter Gordon had little to no experience outside Slater & Gordon when he started.

[LostDoggy]

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Is Alberti?

I don't know. That's why I was asking the questions.

[LostDoggy]

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Bringing people with money is one thing, but how much are they committed to actually spending on the club? That might sound a stupid question, but I'd be afraid of a group of businessmen waving money at a club like ours, effectively holding the club to ransom to ensure every decision is their way or the highway. Paying off the debt would be fantastic, but I'd be more interested in what their ideas were to grow the club's finances organically. Smorgon has plenty of cash. Having a fat wallet does not make you a good administrator of a football club.

I think his reputation and integrity took a hit during the 2011 stoush. I don't want a man who won't put his money where his mouth is. I'm not sure that's the case, I don't know what was happening behind the scenes, but I'm hesitant until I know otherwise.

That's just speaking for myself, of course.

A better question: Why do you think Dimma is the man for the job?

Cos we need a change. We are going nowhere at the moment.
Dimma might not be the best candidate but we if continue down the same path we will lose more members, stangnate on field and make it harder to challenge again.

Im interested your money view. Saying Dimma didn't put his money where his mouth is but 17 years of Smorgon hasn't really secured our financials either.

[Bornadog]

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Cos we need a change. We are going nowhere at the moment.
Dimma might not be the best candidate but we if continue down the same path we will lose more members, stangnate on field and make it harder to challenge again.

Im interested your money view. Saying Dimma didn't put his money where his mouth is but 17 years of Smorgon hasn't really secured our financials either.

I don't believe Smorgon put much money in personally (I can't prove that, just what I have been told) and he was touted as having lots of business connections but we still have a debt of $4 million.