McCartney's Bulldogs premiership plan

[Bornadog]

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I think Ratten has wasted a few years at Carlton, they should have been a lot better by now, a few number 1 draft picks that are finally coming on but I believe that would have happened anyway, he has done nothing as a coach as far as I can see.

As much as I hate Carlton they have heaps of talent that a reasonable coach would have got more out of by now.

Couldn't agree more, the talent is sure there. How many number one draft picks do they have, plus Judd?

[ledge]

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Couldn't agree more, the talent is sure there. How many number one draft picks do they have, plus Judd?

I belive Gibbs, Murphy and Kruezer.

[LostDoggy]

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Couldn't agree more, the talent is sure there. How many number one draft picks do they have, plus Judd?

Essendon will win a flag before Carlton does.

[ledge]

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Essendon will win a flag before Carlton does.

We will before either do

[Greystache]

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Essendon will win a flag before Carlton does.

Based on?

[ledge]

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Based on?

Maybe Ratten coaching, Essendon has done a sneaky but smart membership drive

The new world, use a club great to get members , call him coach but hire a real coach in the background.
We all pay membership to watch games, Sir James gets paid a zillion a year to sit in comfort and watch games.

[LostDoggy]

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Based on?

Their (Essendon's) knowledge that their list isn't going to get them there, and the right staff, coaches and administration, to fix that.

As opposed to Carlton, who are convinced they can win a flag with their current list. Judd is 28. They have no real forward line (much like us a few years back — and now, admittedly). I see them suffering the Bulldogs' fate, and just missing out a few years in a row before falling back out of the eight for another round of tanking.

[ledge]

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Their (Essendon's) knowledge that their list isn't going to get them there, and the right staff, coaches and administration, to fix that.

As opposed to Carlton, who are convinced they can win a flag with their current list. Judd is 28. They have no real forward line (much like us a few years back — and now, admittedly). I see them suffering the Bulldogs' fate, and just missing out a few years in a row before falling back out of the eight for another round of tanking.

They should have listened to Hardwick a few years ago when he said rebuild but listened to Knights who told them what they wanted to hear, we will make finals!
I actually think Sheedy had same problem, Essendon wanted finals every year so he was forced to keep recruiting older players.
Now they are paying for it.

[The Underdog]

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They should have listened to Hardwick a few years ago when he said rebuild but listened to Knights who told them what they wanted to hear, we will make finals!
I actually think Sheedy had same problem, Essendon wanted finals every year so he was forced to keep recruiting older players.
Now they are paying for it.

They did make finals and got slaughtered by Adelaide. much like this year they made finals and got slaughtered by Carlton.
Looking at the 2 lists I couldn't see how Essendon win a GF before Carlton.

[ledge]

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They did make finals and got slaughtered by Adelaide. much like this year they made finals and got slaughtered by Carlton.
Looking at the 2 lists I couldn't see how Essendon win a GF before Carlton.

Yes and problem was they were just making finals, niether here nor there, might as well be Richmond.
Both sides arent going anywhere but If I had to pick one its Carlton.
Carlton have bottomed out and got great players, Essendon are still in we will make 8th every year mindframe.

[Mantis]

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They did make finals and got slaughtered by Adelaide. much like this year they made finals and got slaughtered by Carlton.
Looking at the 2 lists I couldn't see how Essendon win a GF before Carlton.

The only way it could happen is that neither team win flags with this current batch of players.... and then it's just a lottery.

[LostDoggy]

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All this stuff on Essendon and Carlton premierships make me feel ill.

[The Underdog]

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The only way it could happen is that neither team win flags with this current batch of players.... and then it's just a lottery.

Exactly, Carlton are a heap closer than Essendon are, doesn't mean someone else doesn't come through and beat both of them.

[Drunken Bum]

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All this stuff on Essendon and Carlton premierships make me feel ill.

My thoughts exactly

[LostDoggy]

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They did make finals and got slaughtered by Adelaide. much like this year they made finals and got slaughtered by Carlton.
Looking at the 2 lists I couldn't see how Essendon win a GF before Carlton.

The only way it could happen is that neither team win flags with this current batch of players.... and then it's just a lottery.

I think Essendon will realise (or have already) long before Carlton does, and hence they'll have a large head start.