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  • Greystache
    WOOF Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    #106
    Re: Pre-season

    Originally posted by mjp
    Why do we need to get bigger?

    The whole 'pushed off the ball' thing? I am so tired of hearing about that. Dalhaus was a skinny whippet and seemed to cope just fine. Hooper looks like a key on legs and can't get near it...

    What is the player type we are after? If Geelong is the model, Selwood played in a GF in his first year and was pretty darned skinny back then...it takes all kinds and all body shapes.
    Skinny?

    I wish all of our young players were this "skinny"

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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7474

      #107
      Re: Pre-season

      Hmmm - look up the photos of him from 2006 (the year he was drafted) - he is skinny, skinny, skinny. Just type in 'Pictures of Joel Selwood playing for the Bendigo Pioneers in Google'.

      I know I should know by now how to include an image but I don't and am too lazy to look it up.
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • Greystache
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        #108
        Re: Pre-season

        Originally posted by mjp
        Hmmm - look up the photos of him from 2006 (the year he was drafted) - he is skinny, skinny, skinny. Just type in 'Pictures of Joel Selwood playing for the Bendigo Pioneers in Google'.

        I know I should know by now how to include an image but I don't and am too lazy to look it up.
        That photo is from his first season of AFL footy, if he wasn't built like that when drafted then that's a testament to the work the Geelong players put into their weights.
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        • Greystache
          WOOF Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          #109
          Re: Pre-season

          This photo is Selwood in the lead up to the draft.



          This aqnd the on above are him during his first season in 2007.



          If anything, this proves how much of a focus it was for Geelong to get their players big quickly.
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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7474

            #110
            Re: Pre-season

            Originally posted by Greystache
            This photo is Selwood in the lead up to the draft.

            If anything, this proves how much of a focus it was for Geelong to get their players big quickly.
            Cheers GS...that is one of the images I was looking at.

            Geelong provide the tools and systems...the player takes advantage and works hard. Selwood was skinny when he was drafted - and that was at the end of a year when he barely plated because of a knee and you would assume he would have been spending some time in the gym.

            We shouldn't be scared to draft skinny players. 17yo males are very often skinny...they start putting on weight later on...
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • Dancin' Douggy
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 2877

              #111
              Re: Pre-season

              Listen, there's skinny and then there's very skinny, and then there's famished, then malnourished.
              Murphy arrived in the malnourished class, which makes skinny 'normal'.
              A normally built kid at the age of 16/17 is ripe for rapid muscle development.
              Then there are freaks who are built like gorillas and have side burns in grade 6.

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              • Greystache
                WOOF Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 9775

                #112
                Re: Pre-season

                Short, tough session today, had the boys working very hard. Mostly the younger guys training with a spattering of the fitter senior players. Mulligan, Williams, Hargrave, and Lake all did run throughs on the sidelines.

                The standout in the match based drills was Dahlhaus, he was starting in the centre bounces and pushing forward and was everywhere. He finished a lot of the plays kicking goals on the run.

                The player that really stood out in the running drills was Skinner, he was consistently at the front of the B group and looks to have increased his fitness dramatically.
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                • Maddog37
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3132

                  #113
                  Re: Pre-season

                  Thanks Stache.

                  Good news on Skinner and I am excited to think what Dal might yet become. A player with his speed and instinct with added strength and fitness is a tantalising prospect.....

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                  • stefoid
                    Senior Player
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1846

                    #114
                    Re: Pre-season

                    Its not Clay's size specifically that Mac targeted - he is a bit under 6ft. Its his contested skills - he keeps his feet, fights to get the ball, fights to clear the ball, and fights to stop the opposition from doing either.

                    that is not crozier's bio - completely different players.

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                    • dogman
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 135

                      #115
                      Re: Pre-season

                      I went down for a quick peek today too. Boys working really hard.

                      I'm first to admit that I'm not Grant's biggest fan, but he looks like a changed man to me. Firstly looks bigger and secondly didn't look disinterested as he did during the year.

                      He ran hard the whole time. The last drill had him in a group of about 7, which inlcuded Dahlhaus doing 3 seperate sets of shuttle runs. Dahlhaus won the first set but Grant the last two.

                      It's make or break next season, so hopefully he has pulled his finger out.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67700

                        #116
                        Re: Pre-season

                        Originally posted by dogman
                        I went down for a quick peek today too. Boys working really hard.

                        I'm first to admit that I'm not Grant's biggest fan, but he looks like a changed man to me. Firstly looks bigger and secondly didn't look disinterested as he did during the year.

                        He ran hard the whole time. The last drill had him in a group of about 7, which inlcuded Dahlhaus doing 3 seperate sets of shuttle runs. Dahlhaus won the first set but Grant the last two.

                        It's make or break next season, so hopefully he has pulled his finger out.
                        He certainly has the talent, looking forward to seeing him next season.
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                        • LongWait
                          WOOF Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 936

                          #117
                          Re: Pre-season

                          Originally posted by dogman
                          I went down for a quick peek today too. Boys working really hard.

                          I'm first to admit that I'm not Grant's biggest fan, but he looks like a changed man to me. Firstly looks bigger and secondly didn't look disinterested as he did during the year.

                          He ran hard the whole time. The last drill had him in a group of about 7, which inlcuded Dahlhaus doing 3 seperate sets of shuttle runs. Dahlhaus won the first set but Grant the last two.

                          It's make or break next season, so hopefully he has pulled his finger out.
                          I appreciate these insights Dogman - the stuff you can't get from media reports - honest observations from a hard marker are really great.

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                          • KT31
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 5455

                            #118
                            Re: Pre-season

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            Cheers GS...that is one of the images I was looking at.

                            Geelong provide the tools and systems...the player takes advantage and works hard. Selwood was skinny when he was drafted - and that was at the end of a year when he barely plated because of a knee and you would assume he would have been spending some time in the gym.

                            We shouldn't be scared to draft skinny players. 17yo males are very often skinny...they start putting on weight later on...
                            Even SS and myself.
                            It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                            • Missing-Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3102

                              #119
                              Re: Pre-season

                              If I recall its training tonight with the new draftees

                              Anybody going to have a look at them? if so can we get some feedback on how they go.

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                              • stefoid
                                Senior Player
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 1846

                                #120
                                Re: Pre-season

                                Take your camera's, you bludgers!

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