Did we cut deep enough for 2011

[Mantis]

Re: Did we cut deep enough for 2011

We were still constantly beaten by sides above us and often little things like positioning at stoppages cost us. We lost that terrible St. Kilda game because of this, and also a close one v Hawthorn. Little things like that don't require the talent of a Franklin, Riewoldt etc.

We failed in the same areas, but Eade never changed his philosophy. We were never going to beat Geelong/Hawthorn/Collingwood/St. Kilda with a free wheeling game style, but we continually went down this path.

IMO it's an easy cop out to say we weren't good enough. We were close enough in several games and were often our own enemy.

Moot point anyway, as it's all advanced to the position we're in now. Hopefully the new coaching staff can implement their plans, and hopefully we draft well. We're going to need to.

What was Eade's philosphy?

[Maddog37]

Re: Did we cut deep enough for 2011

It seemed to me to be constant running and fast ball movement.

[mjp]

Re: Did we cut deep enough for 2011

Please, please...enough of the Eade game-plan/no game-plan/no second game-plan debate...

Did we cut deep enough? Well, we didn't cut ANYONE did we?

The only delisting I am aware of is Stack - who supposedly was offered a contract but respectfully declined. Given that, and our 2011 win-loss ratio, the answer to the opening question is clearly NO. I completely disagree with the idea of delisting Schofield and Veszpremi at this point. I can see why people stand behind Skinner (though I disagree) and beyond that would happily see the end of Addison, Moles, Barlow, Mulligan and Hooper. Barlow is a rookie I guess, so no harm, no foul there...The others? Very lucky indeed.

On a positive note, I don't have to cheer for Josh Hill and Brennan Stack anymore.

[stefoid]

Re: Did we cut deep enough for 2011

Decision making and ability to contest. Give me that and you can overcome all kinds of shortcomings ( libba - no pun intended! ) Even players like Boyd or Cross who have serious deficiencies in their game overcome them by firstly, willingness to bust a gut getting the thing, secondly, smart enough to work around their shortcomings ( most of the time )

Stack running around in circles in our back line for example. May as well have worn a neon sign saying ' de-list me! '

I agree - Geelong are the yardstick, and they have relatively few players with genuine pace - you could say their midfield was mostly 'one paced'. They have relatively few players with 'x-factor'.

What they do have is a lot of players who are good at contesting the ball and using it well under pressure when they get it. Tons of those guys.

Thats why I particularly like Libba and Dalhaus, and I hope that Adams falls to our pick in the draft. Thats why Ward's defection hurts a lot.

I really hope Wallis has these attributes, can anyone tell me?