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  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    #16
    Re: Wallis

    Originally posted by Doglee
    Its hard to get and inside mid roll at our club atm, he is a natural replacement for cross, same attitude and might even be a bit better footballer in the long run.
    This is what I've said all along.

    I thought he would get games ahead of Libba, but I'm not concerned that he didn't. It was always going to be one or the other.

    I haven't seen much of him this year, but from a junior perspective I found his ball use was ok. His kicks do float but they generally hit their mark. Perhaps it could be a confidence issue or he's struggling to come to terms with the extra pressure at the moment.
    Last edited by Missing Dog; 05-11-2011, 07:49 PM. Reason: Changed good to ok, looked back through some notes

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    • stefoid
      Senior Player
      • Dec 2009
      • 1846

      #17
      Re: Wallis

      Thanks. I was kind of hoping to hear that he had great disposal, at least by hand, but was still coming to terms with the speed of the game or fitness or something.

      Didnt want to hear his disposal was anything less than great.

      Really, wallis and Libba came as a package. Which one went round 1 and which round 2 was academic.

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      • The Cowshed

        #18
        Re: Wallis

        I think he'll be right once he finds his natural position in the centre but for the moment he is way too slow, is too soft (can't handle a one on one situation) and he wants to handball all the time. I hope somenone takes him aside and works on a few of these aspects to bring him up to speed. His opportunity will probably arise when Cross retires.

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        • Go_Dogs
          Hall of Fame
          • Jan 2007
          • 10165

          #19
          Re: Wallis

          Originally posted by bulldogsman
          I haven't seen much of him this year, but from a junior perspective I found his ball use was ok. His kicks do float but they generally hit their mark. Perhaps it could be a confidence issue or he's struggling to come to terms with the extra pressure at the moment.
          I tend to agree. He's not going to be a Gilbee-like user by foot, but he's good enough and certainly should be a better user by foot than Cross is.

          I think Mitch will be fine and I expect him to play quite a lot of senior footy next year. I see him developing into a player that can keep his direct opponent quiet, do the defensive stuff, but also work hard to create an option going forward.
          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21840

            #20
            Re: Wallis

            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
            Me comparing someone to Cross isn't really a slight
            No, but saying they're a "poor man's" version of him might be!
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • Desipura
              WOOF Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 4344

              #21
              Re: Wallis

              Originally posted by The Cowshed
              I think he'll be right once he finds his natural position in the centre but for the moment he is way too slow, is too soft (can't handle a one on one situation) and he wants to handball all the time. I hope somenone takes him aside and works on a few of these aspects to bring him up to speed. His opportunity will probably arise when Cross retires.
              Wallis is not too soft, every time the ball was too be won in a one on one contest he would not shirk the issue.
              You have been making some outlandish statements, some true and much with little foundation.

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              • Topdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7471

                #22
                Re: Wallis

                Originally posted by The Cowshed
                I think he'll be right once he finds his natural position in the centre but for the moment he is way too slow, is too soft (can't handle a one on one situation) and he wants to handball all the time. I hope somenone takes him aside and works on a few of these aspects to bring him up to speed. His opportunity will probably arise when Cross retires.
                Don't confuse strength with softness. He simply isn't strong enough yet but will be.

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                • ledge
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 14337

                  #23
                  Re: Wallis

                  Originally posted by Desipura
                  Wallis is not too soft, every time the ball was too be won in a one on one contest he would not shirk the issue.
                  You have been making some outlandish statements, some true and much with little foundation.
                  I think he meant needs a bit more harder body, Liberatore is lucky in the way he has a natural hard body his dad was stocky and solid his uncle an olympic bodybuilder, its in the genes.
                  Where Wallis has a not so solid gene.
                  Bring back the biff

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #24
                    Re: Wallis

                    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                    The worry for me is his lack of a weapon. Even if he gets enough of it he goes backwards more often than forwards.

                    A poor man's Daniel Cross, perhaps, without the marking or the rabid attack on the ball.

                    The best we could hope for would be a Matt Priddis type, right down to the hair.
                    Sockeye, this comes across as a bit harsh on a 19 year old.
                    Cowshed.. Too soft? You are wrong.

                    Let's see the steps the guy makes this year and better still.. Judge him at 22.

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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #25
                      Re: Wallis

                      Originally posted by marcov
                      Sockeye, this comes across as a bit harsh on a 19 year old.
                      Cowshed.. Too soft? You are wrong.

                      Let's see the steps the guy makes this year and better still.. Judge him at 22.
                      Agreed. there can be a massive difference in development in one y ear of footy. The kid is practically just a first year uni kid. Harsh.
                      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                      • The Cowshed

                        #26
                        Re: Wallis

                        Originally posted by Desipura
                        Wallis is not too soft, every time the ball was too be won in a one on one contest he would not shirk the issue.
                        You have been making some outlandish statements, some true and much with little foundation.
                        I think he is being found out for pace at the moment and this affected his confidence this year, particularly in winning the ball when caught out in a one on one situation in open space (he doesn't have the speed to break away). Hopefully, with a pre-season or two under his belt and some opportunities we will see his pace increase and the creative side of him come to the fore.

                        And yes, I can be harsh, but hey, I been going to the footy since the mid 70s and have seen every game for the last 30 years and the premiership count sits at Nil, zero, zippo, nothing...so I am a little harder to please as I have seen and heard it all before. I just tell it as I see it. Hopefully though, once in our lifetime, our fortunes will turn around.

                        P.S Maybe I'm a little harder on Wallis because one day I think he will captain the side down the track.

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                        • Ghost Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          #27
                          Re: Wallis

                          Originally posted by The Cowshed
                          I think he is being found out for pace at the moment and this affected his confidence this year, particularly in winning the ball when caught out in a one on one situation in open space (he doesn't have the speed to break away). Hopefully, with a pre-season or two under his belt and some opportunities we will see his pace increase and the creative side of him come to the fore.

                          And yes, I can be harsh, but hey, I been going to the footy since the mid 70s and have seen every game for the last 30 years and the premiership count sits at Nil, zero, zippo, nothing...so I am a little harder to please as I have seen and heard it all before. I just tell it as I see it. Hopefully though, once in our lifetime, our fortunes will turn around.

                          P.S Maybe I'm a little harder on Wallis because one day I think he will captain the side down the track.

                          Tell it like it is eh? measuring a 19 year old's debut year as if he were a regular. That ain't telling it like it is...
                          What you want to avoid is exactly that, setting him up as the future captain of the club before our eggs are hatched
                          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                          • The Cowshed

                            #28
                            Re: Wallis

                            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                            I guess there are two camps. those to who a premiership is everything and those who just want to enjoy and win the next game.
                            Well this is true Ghost Dog, but our club will not survive into the future if we continue to enjoy the next game. We don't have a god given right to continually play in this competition and I for one do not accept poor performance, I want to win and win premierships. Our very survival counts on it.

                            The gulf between the have's and have not's will continue to get bigger and who know's there may well be a break away formed as in 1897. Our club as it is doing needs to strive to attain premierships and the relentless pursuit of excellence otherwise, one day, we will find ourselves left behind. Premierships attract supporters, sponsors, money etc and we need to keep ourselves in the top bracket so we will always have our club to support.

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                            • Desipura
                              WOOF Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4344

                              #29
                              Re: Wallis

                              Originally posted by The Cowshed
                              I think he is being found out for pace at the moment and this affected his confidence this year, particularly in winning the ball when caught out in a one on one situation in open space (he doesn't have the speed to break away). Hopefully, with a pre-season or two under his belt and some opportunities we will see his pace increase and the creative side of him come to the fore.

                              And yes, I can be harsh, but hey, I been going to the footy since the mid 70s and have seen every game for the last 30 years and the premiership count sits at Nil, zero, zippo, nothing...so I am a little harder to please as I have seen and heard it all before. I just tell it as I see it. Hopefully though, once in our lifetime, our fortunes will turn around.

                              P.S Maybe I'm a little harder on Wallis because one day I think he will captain the side down the track.
                              I too have been going to the footy since the 70s. Many will tell you I am not easy to please either.
                              Interesting that you did not defend your soft statement rather pointing to his lack of pace? Not too sure how his lack of pace is related to him being labelled unfairly by you as soft?

                              Wallis may not end up being the most talented player at the end of his career.
                              Given how professional he is reported to be in his approach/attitude to the game, I would not be surprised if he becomes a true leader in the years to come.
                              We all know we have a shortage of TRUE leaders who deliver when we really need them. I'm confident he will leave no stone unturned to become a very good long time AFL footballer.

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                              • Remi Moses
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 14785

                                #30
                                Re: Wallis

                                Can't believe wallis is even being discussed!
                                FFS the kid's 19 years old! We all want a flag and let's be honest if flags were nourishment we would have fair dinkum starved to death 40 years ago.

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