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  • angelopetraglia
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6838

    Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

    Six things I want to see this pre-season ...


    1. Jarrad Grant – putting some meat on those bones |
    The boy has been in the system for a while now and still looks like a skinny 15 year old boy. Hoping to see some dedication to the gym and eating plenty of rib-eye (Ace Cordy ... ditto).

    2. Some serious challengers to Crossy, Boyd and Gia | One can only admire these guys ability to turn up at the start of every pre-season in tip top shape, but if we are to improve we need the younger guys to start challenging these guys in the fitness stakes.

    3. Cooney getting his knee right | How we miss the real Adam Cooney. Will the real Adam Cooney, please stand up? Fingers crossed that his knee can fully recover, because the real Adam Cooney is feared by the opposition and warms the heart of every Bulldog supporter.

    4. A new game plan | No doubt about it, our game plan last year was like taking a knife to a gun fight. We were beaten before the ball was bounced. How the previous coaching staff managed to miss the quantum change in how the game is played is still a mystery to me. Hopefully our new game plan not only mimics what has been so successful but also makes some minor tweaks and improvements that are always required not to only the match the best but actually beat them.

    5. Brian Lake gets himself right | Is it his body or his head? Obviously last year he had to overcome a horrific pre-season full of operations and limited preparation. No doubt the body was broken, but I also worry about his mental strength. Hopefully he gets both right, because All Australian full backs a rare commodity and Lake at his best is a AA match winner.

    6. Toughness, gritty determination & a never say die attitude |
    In my humble opinion, a lack of these characteristics denied us taking the next step in ’08, ’09 and ’00. The new coach is saying all the right stuff; let’s hope that it’s just not talk and we actually improve in this area. It is the actual playing group or can we teach this stuff. I'm hoping its the latter.


    What do you want to see this pre-season?
  • westdog54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6686

    #2
    Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

    Rather than quote the whole post:

    Point 1:As far as I'm concerned Jarrad has far bigger problems than lack of meat on his bones. He needs to work harder and play smarter. I want to see him develop as a footballer before we worry about developing him as a bodybuilder

    Point 2:While I take your point, Crossy and Boyd are the most fanatical trainers I can remember at the club, to the point where Crossy keeps footballs in his kitchen cupboards so he can catch them when he opens them.

    Other than that, agree 100%

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    • soupman
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2007
      • 5113

      #3
      Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

      Originally posted by westdog54
      Point 1:As far as I'm concerned Jarrad has far bigger problems than lack of meat on his bones. He needs to work harder and play smarter. I want to see him develop as a footballer before we worry about developing him as a bodybuilder
      Yeah I'll second that.

      Honestly I'd rather see him develop a greater endurance base than bulk up, because I just can't ever see him being big enough to actually use bulk, and putting on weight could be detrimental to his strengths like his pace. If he worked on his endurance and work ethic though he could influence matches much more and could really be a hard matchup.
      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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      • EasternWest
        Hall of Fame
        • Aug 2009
        • 10002

        #4
        Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

        Cooney. I'll probably get slaughtered for saying this but here goes: at what point do we concede that the Cooney we've got is never, ever going to be the Cooney we had? All we hear about when his name is mentioned in "degenerative knee injury" that's "never going to fully heal" (paraphrasing).

        He'd be one of the highest paid players at our club, but is he now worth it? I've always developed a sentimentality for our players, and I hate the thought of hard decisions being made on them, but if he's not going to get better, can we afford to keep him on? Do we try to trade him, do we retire him?

        I'm not necessarily advocating it, I feel a bit dirty typing it, but I'm desperate for us to win a flag, and wondering if we can do it while carrying a chronically injured star.

        I hope he can recover and get near to his best again, but seeing him on the bike in the preseason pics doesn't fill me with confidence. Interested to hear what you guys think.
        "It's over. It's all over."

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        • KT31
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jul 2008
          • 5454

          #5
          Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

          Originally posted by westdog54
          Rather than quote the whole post:


          Point 2:While I take your point, Crossy and Boyd are the most fanatical trainers I can remember at the club, to the point where Crossy keeps footballs in his kitchen cupboards so he can catch them when he opens them.
          Love it.
          It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #6
            Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

            Originally posted by EasternWest
            Cooney. I'll probably get slaughtered for saying this but here goes: at what point do we concede that the Cooney we've got is never, ever going to be the Cooney we had? All we hear about when his name is mentioned in "degenerative knee injury" that's "never going to fully heal" (paraphrasing).

            He'd be one of the highest paid players at our club, but is he now worth it? I've always developed a sentimentality for our players, and I hate the thought of hard decisions being made on them, but if he's not going to get better, can we afford to keep him on? Do we try to trade him, do we retire him?

            I'm not necessarily advocating it, I feel a bit dirty typing it, but I'm desperate for us to win a flag, and wondering if we can do it while carrying a chronically injured star.

            I hope he can recover and get near to his best again, but seeing him on the bike in the preseason pics doesn't fill me with confidence. Interested to hear what you guys think.
            So he has lost a bit of speed. Question, is the injury to his preferred kicking leg?
            Like to note, plenty of hobbly midfielders have re-invented themselves up forward.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • EasternWest
              Hall of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 10002

              #7
              Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
              So he has lost a bit of speed. Question, is the injury to his preferred kicking leg?
              Like to note, plenty of hobbly midfielders have re-invented themselves up forward.
              Is it as simple as that? If it was then maybe, but to me he doesn't look to be moving laterally real well either, and his kicking has looked pretty wonky.

              I think he had one cracking game this year (against Carlton IIRC) and a few ok ones after but was then sidelined for the rest of the year (again, IIRC). I guess that's the point I'm making, can we keep him at that cost for that output?

              Name them.
              "It's over. It's all over."

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21817

                #8
                Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

                Originally posted by EasternWest
                Cooney. I'll probably get slaughtered for saying this but here goes: at what point do we concede that the Cooney we've got is never, ever going to be the Cooney we had? All we hear about when his name is mentioned in "degenerative knee injury" that's "never going to fully heal" (paraphrasing).

                He'd be one of the highest paid players at our club, but is he now worth it? I've always developed a sentimentality for our players, and I hate the thought of hard decisions being made on them, but if he's not going to get better, can we afford to keep him on? Do we try to trade him, do we retire him?

                I'm not necessarily advocating it, I feel a bit dirty typing it, but I'm desperate for us to win a flag, and wondering if we can do it while carrying a chronically injured star.

                I hope he can recover and get near to his best again, but seeing him on the bike in the preseason pics doesn't fill me with confidence. Interested to hear what you guys think.
                We let him play out his contract, and hope like hell he can turn it around. If he doesn't improve we offer him a significantly reduced contract in terms of years and wages.

                He won't have any trade value for us, so it will become an issue of whether we think he can be a bits and pieces midfielder that can play forward, or an impact sub.

                We can't continue to pay him top dollar though.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #9
                  Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

                  Originally posted by EasternWest
                  Is it as simple as that? If it was then maybe, but to me he doesn't look to be moving laterally real well either, and his kicking has looked pretty wonky.

                  I think he had one cracking game this year (against Carlton IIRC) and a few ok ones after but was then sidelined for the rest of the year (again, IIRC). I guess that's the point I'm making, can we keep him at that cost for that output?

                  Name them.
                  Agree with you. Just saying it is a bit early to write off this unique player. His size and decision making are still a weapons, and we are after larger players this season. Agree, his kicking is poorer now, or looked it in a few games. but if we have a Boyd or a Cross go down, we may need him in an inside role.

                  Hell, Cross's kicking has always been wonky, never been able to run fast and laterally ( sidestepping ) atrocious, but he manages to hold a role. Def need to cut a new deal to reflect the changes in his body at the first opportunity.
                  You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                  • the banker
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 453

                    #10
                    Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

                    Surely it's wait and see with Cooney. The guy is a brilliant footballer and would have the ability to reinvent himself as a goal kicker.
                    WesternOval'61

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                    • Maddog37
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3132

                      #11
                      Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

                      What about Cooney the attacking half back flanker?

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                      • Dazza
                        WOOF Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 548

                        #12
                        Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

                        Would prefer cooney the impact substitute player TBH.

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15444

                          #13
                          Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

                          Originally posted by Maddog37
                          What about Cooney the attacking half back flanker?
                          The issue is more about getting him on the park rather than finding him a new role to play.

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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6520

                            #14
                            Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

                            I take a bit of heart from the fact that Andrew Mcleod was talked about in a similar vain in regard to his knee for the last 5 or 6 years of his career.

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                            • Ghost Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • May 2010
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                              #15
                              Re: Six things I want to see this pre-season ...

                              Originally posted by lemmon
                              I take a bit of heart from the fact that Andrew Mcleod was talked about in a similar vain in regard to his knee for the last 5 or 6 years of his career.

                              Good analogy. can we think of any other people who played on with a similar issue?
                              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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