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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
Like the look of this kid. We'll have a great clearance team in a couple years time.
Like the look of this kid. We'll have a great clearance team in a couple years time.
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
It's not that the coach is talking the boy up. Of course the coach will talk up the kid.Originally posted by theimmortalmike
The point here is that the couple of strengths that the coach highlighted were the very things the internet expert highlighted as weaknesses. It's not that hard to work out that the internet dude is probably not the one to believe here. It wouldn't surprise me if he formed his opinions mainly from YouTube footage and BigFooty group think. But if you think that Quigly is right and the coach is therefore totally clueless, then go right ahead.
ps. Quigly is the guy who thought that Panos would be an amazing steal if he slipped to the second round. We picked him up in the Rookie Draft. Enough said.Comment
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
Don't know about Quigly in particular, but many people who do detailed mock drafts (including some from this forum) spend a heap of time watching the players in person and on tape. The fact that bulldogsman agreed with Quigly leads me to suspect that the coach was at least gilding the lily a bit.
Of course there's a big leap from being an amateur draft watcher and a recruiter, and every year some players thought to be certainties are not drafted. But the recruiters have a heap more info and still get things disastrously wrong on a fairly regular basis.
I haven't followed the BigFooty mock drafts much the past few years, but before then it was clear to seasoned observers who was a decent judge of footy players. And I suspect Stefoid has good reasons for choosing to highlight his profile. In other words, Quigly is unlikely to be just a clueless internet guy - and it's better to not go off half-cocked.[SIZE="1"][B][CENTER][I]Although it broke our hearts it did not break our will[/I][/CENTER][/B][/SIZE]Comment
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
Yes and I am sure if he doesn't rip it up we'll get a Mitch Wallis type thread questioning whether he'll make it.
Let's just hope we give the kid some time before he's written off!!Comment
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
Smith was tested in the bottom 11% for the standing jump and the bottom 10% for the running jump. How does the coach explain that one?Comment
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
If he played for Geelong Falcons Mick Turner would have said it was because of the kryptonite.Comment
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
Wasn't Clay Smith the kid you said you would cry if we picked him up?
ps. I'm stoked we have WOOF.. I've been in Lusaka, Zambia for this last week (will be here for another month -- hey, and if you think the West of Melbourne has it bad haha) and missed the draft entirely, so will be catching up on it via reading everything on WOOF later tonight.Comment
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
We've lost cement(head) but struck Clay.
I should go to bed.Comment
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
I said that too, but picking up Talia with our next pick helped change my mind(plus giving it more thought we really do need more than one draft to fix all of our deficiencies).
I am happy now we have Clay and have a feeling he will be able to have an impact for us straight away.The curse is dead.Comment
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
I have high hopes for Panos and I'm anything but a knocker, but with respect, he hasn't proven anything just yet. Where Panos is in his development relative to other players at the same age is irrelevant - what matters is how good he will be at his best. Refer the Daniel Rich/Steven Hill arguments for example.
The point I was making is that phantom drafts are sometimes interesting to read but you've got to take the assessments in them with a grain of salt. The coaches of the kids and the AFL club recruiting staff are more likely to have been able to identify each players' strengths and weaknesses than "Quigly" of the internet.Comment
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
Unusual for someone who came from basketball until 15. Maybe thats why he gave up basketball - white man couldnt jump.
On the plus side, he has max 4 years of footy experience under his belt, so if youre the half-full type (and who isnt this time of year
) you could say he has a lot of potential for improvement as he is relatively new to the game.
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Re: Pick 17- Clay Smith
If you're an optimist, you'd also point out that many very good inside midfielders have a basketball background (West, Tony Shaw & Ball come to mind).Unusual for someone who came from basketball until 15. Maybe thats why he gave up basketball - white man couldnt jump.
On the plus side, he has max 4 years of footy experience under his belt, so if youre the half-full type (and who isnt this time of year ) you could say he has a lot of potential for improvement as he is relatively new to the game.
The advantage in spacial awareness has to count for something.Western Bulldogs: 2016 PremiersComment
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