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[boydogs]

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If his fitness is as poor as some say though, is it going to take him a year before he can play AFL?

I don't think so, it's not the same challenge as putting meat on Cordy & Grant.

[KT31]

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I don't think so, it's not the same challenge as putting meat on Cordy & Grant.

Muscle or weight, both have to lift.
We have put a lot into both and rewards seem to be a long way off.
Grant is far ahead of Cordy.
And I still reserve my jugement on both, but other players recruited in the same year at less of a cost have jumped leaps and bound s past Cordy.

[LostDoggy]

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Well, I don't know anything about anything and am a bit underwhelmed by this pick from all accounts but I guess you wouldn't say that Joel Selwood (for example, as a type of player that Macca would be going for) has elite kicking skills.

Callan certainly didn't have elite kicking skills. It was middling to good, not brilliant.

Besides, I don't think it's the skills per se, as much as the decision making with an existing skillset that is more important sometimes,especially as a replicable gamestyle under finals pressure (a la LongWait's point, albeit slightly less grumpily. )

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Well, I don't know anything about anything and am a bit underwhelmed by this pick from all accounts but I guess you wouldn't say that Joel Selwood (for example, as a type of player that Macca would be going for) has elite kicking skills.

Callan certainly didn't have elite kicking skills. It was middling to good, not brilliant.

Besides, I don't think it's the skills per se, as much as the decision making with an existing skillset that is more important sometimes.

Ward was as good below his knees as anyone I've ever seen. He only needed a fingertip on the ball to control it.

[KT31]

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Ward was as good below his knees as anyone I've ever seen. He only needed a fingertip on the ball to control it.

That comes from reaching deep into your pocket for such a heavy wallet.

[Mitcha]

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That comes from reaching deep into your pocket for such a heavy wallet.

Gold, comedy Gold. Well played sir!

[Ghost Dog]

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I'm a little disappointed.

I thought our biggest needs were players that could run the ball and use it well by foot. I don't think either of our first 2 selections covered the needs I was hoping for and there were some good ones available in Crozier and Kavanagh. Talia is a tall defender we do need though, so i'm not unhappy with this selection.
Pearce I think fills our needs and I'm happy with this selection.
Not sure about Dickson, probably thought we may go another way with Vespa on our list. I would have loved Bolger at this selection.

Getting Talia was no mean feat by what you read. Outstanding by the club.
Bit of a squeeze now for Vezpa in the selection area but won't be short of attacking options.

[GVGjr]

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Getting Talia was no mean feat by what you read. Outstanding by the club.
Bit of a squeeze now for Vezpa in the selection area but won't be short of attacking options.

I'm not sure it was outstanding unless we planned for him to be there in which case it was hardly a steal. I'd like to know who we might have selected if Talia was selected before our pick.

[LongWait]

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I'm not sure it was outstanding unless we planned for him to be there in which case it was hardly a steal. I'd like to know who we might have selected if Talia was selected before our pick.

How do you rate the club's selections?

[Mantis]

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Getting Talia was no mean feat by what you read. Outstanding by the club.
Bit of a squeeze now for Vezpa in the selection area but won't be short of attacking options.

It's mind-numbing if you actually believe this statement.

[Missing Dog]

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Getting Talia was no mean feat by what you read. Outstanding by the club.
Bit of a squeeze now for Vezpa in the selection area but won't be short of attacking options.

I've seen a lot of Talia. Granted I'm no expert or recruiter, but I thought there was reasonable chance he would be available come pick 39 (see my phantom draft). I'm very happy the club passed on him with our 1st pick, but I'm not sure what's so outstanding about it.

[ledge]

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Clay and Libber are the same kind of player by what I am reading but Libber is better with disposal, will Clay and Libber alternate?

[GVGjr]

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How do you rate the club's selections?

It was a strange approach. Based on what I saw last year, the side needed to add pacy players but ignored that and we seemed to have cloned some players we already have.

Smith is a good footballer. He reads the play well and he can no doubt add something in the contested football situations. He's not slow but he certainly won't hurt sides with his running nor with his skills. His kicking is proppy and it reminds me a bit of Nathan Jones from Melbourne kicking. I don't believe he is a replacement for Ward.

Talia is a good KPD but he also lacks a step in pace and his kicking isn't direct enough. He prefers to chip the ball sideways with his kicking.
His best features are that he is strong in one on one contests and that he's very physical with his opponents which I like in a defender. A mate of mine thinks he's a lot like Norths Scott Thompson.

Pearce is a good runner and has nice skills. I think he was compared to a shorter version of Easton Wood by the club but I think he's more similar to Schofield.

I have doubts that Dickson can spend any time in the midfield because he's coming from a mile back with his fitness so that means he's best suited to a small FP role and probably means he's bumping heads with Veszpremi for a spot in the senior side.
Is he any better than say a Patrick Rose? I remember the knock on him was that he didn't have the fitness to rotate through the midfield.

To me that means 3 of our 4 selections aren't going to add a lot to our running stocks.

[Mitcha]

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It was a strange approach.
Based on what I saw last year, the side needed to add pacy players but ignored that and we seemed to have cloned some players we already have.

Tell me which players play that role who you would have taken with our picks?

[ledge]

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Tell me which players play that role who you would have taken with our picks?

And ones that were available at those picks