Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

[GVGjr]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

I would include Skinner into this group.

Was shown to be a fair way off last season and one would think he would need to be a big improver to earn a new contract.

Agree. He has a long way to go and I never quite understood why we picked him for the game in Canberra and had him as a sub for 3 quarters.
I'm told he is vastly fitter than 12 months ago (he obviously should be) and that he should be able to improve in 2012.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

I know it's hard with list sizes etc but I'd like to see us persevere for longer with someone like Skinner.
He's obviously got the latent talent. Confidence and conditioning are the missing pieces.

We persevered with guys like Mulligan and Addison for years and years.
Someone with Skinners background and potential deserves the same, if not more, commitment.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

I know it's hard with list sizes etc but I'd like to see us persevere for longer with someone like Skinner.
He's obviously got the latent talent. Confidence and conditioning are the missing pieces.

We persevered with guys like Mulligan and Addison for years and years.
Someone with Skinners background and potential deserves the same, if not more, commitment.

Brad Dick, Liam Jarrah, these skinny type of bodies find it hard to shine for being injury free.
Not writing him off but indications are the New regime - ( " We will err on the side of toughness" ) might not be prepared to persevere.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

I know it's hard with list sizes etc but I'd like to see us persevere for longer with someone like Skinner.
He's obviously got the latent talent. Confidence and conditioning are the missing pieces.

We persevered with guys like Mulligan and Addison for years and years.
Someone with Skinners background and potential deserves the same, if not more, commitment.

If Skinner played 0 AFL games in 2012, but consolidated himself in the Williamstown Seniors and had a good consistent year, that would be a good result.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

Brad Dick, Liam Jarrah, these skinny type of bodies find it hard to shine for being injury free.
Not writing him off but indications are the New regime - ( " We will err on the side of toughness" ) might not be prepared to persevere.

Kevin Bartlett and Michael Tuck might have something to say on the matter

[EasternWest]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

Lake was INJURED.

Bears repeating.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

Kevin Bartlett and Michael Tuck might have something to say on the matter

Hey Good points. But in my defence, both of them were absolute freaks
I hope Skinner gets his chance I really do.

[Maddog37]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

Bears repeating.

Bear can do that.........

[Mofra]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

Agree. He has a long way to go and I never quite understood why we picked him for the game in Canberra and had him as a sub for 3 quarters.
I'm told he is vastly fitter than 12 months ago (he obviously should be) and that he should be able to improve in 2012.

Vastly fitter is a good thing, but knowing where (and when) to run seemed to be something he struggled with at times too.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

I am firmly in Brian's corner.

As we all should be until proven wrong.

[jeemak]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

As we all should be until proven wrong.

There's room for keeping an open mind with respect to Brian's rehab, his performances, his comments and those of the coaching staff.

I hope Brian bounces back to become the player we all know he can, I'm also prepared to keep an open mind with respect to how he approached his rehab in the first place and that he might not have been managed as well as he should have been by the medical staff.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

Will Will's will be done?

Willie Makeit. Betty Will.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

I agree with most of the attached comments, but thought i would look at it from a different perspective.

Based on age how long should we hang onto the guys over 29?
Gilbee & Hargrave are both 32yo this year.
Lake, Gia, Murphy, Boyd, Morris are all 30yo this year.
With Cross 29yo this year.

With a couple of injuries any of these guys could be gone, only Boyd would be safe IMO with Gilbee & Hargrave this is the last year for them, Lake and Morris have big injury concerns and Murphy has knee problems that could catch up with him at any time. That leave Gia and Cross, Gia may not be tough enough and Cross the way he plays anything could happen.

The above may save a few of the other young, fitter and faster boys like Moles, DJ etc

[AndrewP6]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

Gilbee & Hargrave are both 32yo this year.

Both will turn 31 in July.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

I agree with most of the attached comments, but thought i would look at it from a different perspective.

Based on age how long should we hang onto the guys over 29?
Gilbee & Hargrave are both 32yo this year.
Lake, Gia, Murphy, Boyd, Morris are all 30yo this year.
With Cross 29yo this year.

With a couple of injuries any of these guys could be gone, only Boyd would be safe IMO with Gilbee & Hargrave this is the last year for them, Lake and Morris have big injury concerns and Murphy has knee problems that could catch up with him at any time. That leave Gia and Cross, Gia may not be tough enough and Cross the way he plays anything could happen.

The above may save a few of the other young, fitter and faster boys like Moles, DJ etc

You raise some very good points, but I can't agree with the bolded. Gia's hips aren't the best though, so I think he probably has 2 years left.

Agree that Gilbee and Hargrave are on their last legs. We certainly have a few too many older heads, which is why I thought we should have traded Cross at the end of 2010.