Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

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  • The Bulldogs Bite
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    • Dec 2006
    • 11409

    #166
    Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

    I went and had a look today. Some good signs and some bad signs, but another good hit-out and solid preparation heading into round one.

    The Good:

    * We are much harder at the ball, and our tackling has improved a hell of a lot. We also aren't putting up with any crap from the opposition, which was great to see for the third week running. We've certainly got a harder edge in this respect.

    Libba was terrific. He just doesn't waste the ball by foot or hand. He positions himself better than anyone else in contests and must have alot of core strength. He's such a smart player.

    Boyd was very good again. Some really good handballs in close to release players into space. Looks set for another huge year.

    Cross was pretty good. Not sure playing him on a wing is a smart idea though, because he doesn't have the pace required. As a result, if the ball spills out into space, his opponent wins. This often gets exploited, but aside from that, Cross was very good. Used the ball well.

    Picken was tough and won the ball. Much better playing in that midfield, drifting forward. He did miss a few targets by foot/bombed away a little though.

    Lake's progress is really encouraging. He had a good battle with Hawkins in the first half. He's still getting beaten on the lead at times, but it can be hard to stop given the way Geelong move the ball. He competed well, killed a lot of balls, took some marks and used the ball really well.

    Hargrave was close to best on the ground for us. Defended well and ran hard to create. Used the ball well. He looks really fit and is set fora big year.

    Roughead was very good. Thought it was a complete game from him today. He helped out the defence a few times with some great spoils, he took some big marks and kicked one or two. He gets the nod for round one.

    Cordy was again impressive. He almost took 3 or 4 good marks, so he's not 'far away' from having a greater impact on a game. He's still very mobile, and he's certainly embracing the physical side of the game a LOT more. Kicked a really good goal, and is just competing well.

    Skinner was super lively when he came on. He gave us a bit of everything; pace, defensive pressure, marking ability, ground ability, but he also made a few errors -- such as going for the spectacular mark. He's got a ridiculous leap on him though. Only came on in the last quarter, but I really think he should play round one. He's exciting and at times makes the difficult look easy. In a congested area, he picked the blal up with one hand, dodged a tackle, weaved around another opposition player and then released a good ball to a running player. It was a great peice of play. There's a lot more to his game than just 'flying for marks' now.

    Griffen was superb, Grant was good when he came on in the second half, Minson did well, Howard had a good second half (first half average). Markovic and Wood had solid games, whilst Dickson showed more today than he had previously. The only thing with Dickson, is that he lacks fitness. He looked buggered and couldn't offer repeat efforts a lot of the time. He does have footy smarts, skill and aggression though.

    The Bad:

    * Our skill level is a worry. Some basic errors. Our delivery into the forward half is most concerning, we give the ball far too much air and a lot of the time they are just 'bombs' hoping that somebody is going to mark it. Geelong, on the other hand, always looked to pass the ball to a player and put it to their advantage. We rarely did this, even though we had a lot of the play.

    * Our defensive press looked really, really poor at times today. Players were occupying space, but all Geelong did was run in a wave, take the space, and handball to a free player. That quickly eliminated any sort of 'press' we had, and it opened up the play for Geelong. They did this numerous times. I can see us suffering HEAVY defeats if we don't fix this up.

    Wallis was the worst on the ground when he came on. His skill level was BEYOND disgraceful. I don't use those words lightly -- it was simply dreadful. It didn't matter if they were simple 20m passes under no pressure or not -- he couldn't hit a target. He cost us at least 2 or 3 goals, and it changed the momentum of the game. Many supporters (both Bulldogs and Geelong) commented on how bad his disposal by foot was. I don't think he even hit one target?

    Howard just doesn't take enough responsibility. He always looks to give off the ball to a player that sometimes is in a worse position than he is. His first half really lacked conviction too -- his tackling was ordinary, his pressure was sub standard. HOWEVER, in the second half, he played much better. Used the ball well by foot, pressured, smothered, and looked more comfortable. Still not sure where we will play him, but the second half restored some faith.

    Addison does a lot of good things, but he does a lot of stupid things. His disposal is bad. Why was he taking the kick ins? Insanity. He also loses sight of the ball in flight at times, which is costly. He did compete well though, and won a lot of contests based on effort and desperateness alone. Kind of a frustrating player -- makes you cheer one moment where he shows great courage and competitiveness to win a ball, and cringe the next when he misses a target from 10m away under no pressure.

    Jones was disappointing, he's really not a full forward. Needs to be played at CHF. He was caught standing and waiting for balls, which isn't how he plays. He needs to play like Riewoldt; run hard, run fast, and run repeatedly to burn off the opposition. He gets a bit lost at FF, and finds himself competing with 2 opposition players.

    Higgins. Not sure what we're going to do with him. He offers nothing. His skill level is non-existant, he's slow both in a physical and mental sense, and his defensive game as we know lacks. He always seems to be jogging around, offering little to no intensity. He'll play round one but he certainly doesn't deserve to IMO.
    W00F!

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    • The Bulldogs Bite
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      • Dec 2006
      • 11409

      #167
      Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

      Oh, also:

      Cooney looked ordinary in the first half. He really lacked touch and wasn't moving exceptionally well.

      He looked a different player in the second half, and particularly the last quarter. He was running hard and fast, and broke away from the packs at least 3 times with speed. It was VERY encouraging to see; he was much, much better by game's end.

      Not convinced he's fit enough for round one, but I thought the signs were still positive.
      W00F!

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14748

        #168
        Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

        Thanks TBB, awesome write up.
        The curse is dead.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45569

          #169
          Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

          I went along as well. Some positive signs but we do lack some class and pace.
          The ones that stood out for various reasons for me were Picken, Boyd, Liberatore, Hargrave, Roughead, Dickson and Cross.

          There is a lot there with McCartney to work with but he does have a lot to do with a few players.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Eastdog
            WOOF Communtiy Organiser
            • Feb 2012
            • 18379

            #170
            Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            I went along as well. Some positive signs but we do lack some class and pace.
            The ones that stood out for various reasons for me were Picken, Boyd, Liberatore, Hargrave, Roughead, Dickson and Cross.

            There is a lot there with McCartney to work with but he does have a lot to do with a few players.
            The players you mentioned Macca doesn't have that much to worry about but he has a lot work with with others. Higgins I thought was disappointing today and I'm hoping he can fingers crossed have a good year. What did you think of Jarrad Grant today?
            "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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            • Nuggety Back Pocket
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 2064

              #171
              Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

              Originally posted by Eastdog
              The players you mentioned Macca doesn't have that much to worry about but he has a lot work with with others. Higgins I thought was disappointing today and I'm hoping he can fingers crossed have a good year. What did you think of Jarrad Grant today?
              Grant was reasonable and it would appear that he , Skinner or Dickson will occupy one half forward flank opposite Dahlhaus. Higgins simply doesn't deserve to be in the opening line up

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              • Eastdog
                WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                • Feb 2012
                • 18379

                #172
                Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

                I just don't know about Higgins. We have all been saying he has potential but like I have said before in previous posts about him maybe that's the best he can show. Who do you think will start Full Forward for us in Round 1 against West Coast. It would have been good if Barry was still around but I think at the end of the day he made the right decision to retire at the end of last season - you can't play forever.
                "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                • Missing Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8501

                  #173
                  Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

                  Howard seems to have the same problem Sam Power had, he lacks confidence and continually takes the safe option which means he isn't utilizing his greatest strength in his kicking skills.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #174
                    Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

                    I think Wallis just lacks confidence, he definitely shows he has enough to stick by him for a few years yet. Yeah, he cost us some goals, but that's going to happen, he's young. I think Libba's fast progress has put some unfair expectations in supporters' eyes when it comes to Mitch.

                    I thought Skinner, Cordy, Shaggs and Addison were highlights for me.

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                    • Bulldog Revolution
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3933

                      #175
                      Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

                      Thanks TBB for the insights

                      Originally posted by GVGjr

                      There is a lot there with McCartney to work with but he does have a lot to do with a few players.

                      Whilst we have a few struggling there have been plenty of good development steps taken by many in the pre-season (e.g Cordy, Roughy, Grant etc). I'm reasonably confident that BMac and team will be able to get most on his wavelength.

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                      • stefoid
                        Senior Player
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1846

                        #176
                        Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

                        What about Smith, Dalhaus? They didnt get great numbers.

                        For al the lambasting of Higgins, he got 24 possies and a goal. Were they junk possessions won in space and used badly, or what?

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                        • Mitcha
                          Draftee
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 753

                          #177
                          Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

                          Smith and Dahlhaus both subbed off at half time with Griff.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45569

                            #178
                            Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

                            Originally posted by stefoid
                            What about Smith, Dalhaus? They didnt get great numbers.

                            For al the lambasting of Higgins, he got 24 possies and a goal. Were they junk possessions won in space and used badly, or what?
                            I don't think Smith will add a lot of value so I now wouldn't name him in the round one side.
                            Dahlhaus wasn't great but it's no big deal.

                            I didn't mind the effort from Higgins but he was patchy. He can play a lot better than that.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #179
                              Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              I don't think Smith will add a lot of value so I now wouldn't name him in the round one side.
                              Dahlhaus wasn't great but it's no big deal.

                              I didn't mind the effort from Higgins but he was patchy. He can play a lot better than that.
                              The Bulldogs Bite posts are THE posts of this forum. Gee Addison was bad (when he was bad
                              as he did a couple of nice things). Cordy, Zephi, Libba great. Roughy huge forward ruck potential.
                              Murph is starting 2 get caught - 2 more years tops IMO
                              How good is Cooney - even the small stuff
                              Higgins - over it he's player 18 not player 7 and we need
                              2 accept it
                              They did pretty well though

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                              • Greystache
                                WOOF Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9775

                                #180
                                Re: Practise Match - Geelong Cats v Western Bulldogs

                                Dogs downed by Geelong

                                GEELONG has ended its NAB Cup campaign on a positive note, defeating the Western Bulldogs by nine points at Simonds Stadium on Saturday.

                                The Cats looked set to post their second loss at home in as many weeks when they trailed by 19 points early in the third quarter.

                                But the reigning premiers booted the next five goals of the game to take an 18-point lead into the last change.

                                Although the Dogs fought back to within eight points in the final quarter, Geelong steadied and won 11.18 (84) to 11.9 (75).

                                Steven Motlop and Mathew Stokes both kicked two goals for the winners, while Paul Chapman, Andrew Mackie and Joel Corey won plenty of the ball.

                                "We played OK today," Geelong assistant coach Blake Caracella said. "A lot of our players last week … were a bit rusty.

                                "And I thought we started that way a bit in the first quarter. But as the game went on, in the second and third quarters, we were much better.

                                "In the last quarter, the boys put the cue in the rack a little bit, but it was a great hit-out for round one."

                                Matthew Boyd led the way for the Dogs with 36 possessions, while Daniel Cross and Adam Cooney had a big impact.

                                Despite the loss, the Bulldogs' coaches, who are led by former Geelong assistant Brendan McCartney, were pleased with their team's effort.

                                "I'm very happy with the intensity around the footy and our ability to compete with a pretty good contested-ball team," assistant coach Steven King said.

                                "We got exactly what we wanted out of the game. That was a pretty hard, honest effort."

                                Both clubs fielded strong sides in their last hit-out before round one.

                                The Cats, who suffered a big loss to Richmond last weekend, brought Josh Hunt, Stokes, Andrew Mackie, Joel Selwood, Jimmy Bartel and Harry Taylor into their team.

                                That meant they were missing only four active 2011 premiership players.

                                Boyd, Cooney and Cross were among a number of big names who returned for the Dogs in the wake of their narrow loss to North Melbourne in Ballarat last weekend.

                                Both sides avoided any serious injuries, although Bulldogs midfielder Ryan Griffen was subbed out of the game at half-time after suffering a hand injury during the second quarter.

                                Geelong's main concern is Josh Hunt, who was playing his first game since he copped a two-match suspension in the opening round of the NAB Cup.

                                Hunt injured his calf in the third quarter and was then subbed out of the match.

                                The opening half of the match was a scrappy affair, although the smattering of Bulldogs fans would have been impressed by Jordan Roughead's two strong overhead marks against Taylor, Geelong's All Australian defender.

                                The game then came alive when the Cats mounted an aggressive comeback in the third quarter.

                                Chapman, Matthew Scarlett and Selwood were all involved in scuffles, before Mackie brought the small crowd to its feet by bombing a great goal on the run from 60m.

                                Hunt then produced a party trick of his own, booting a great goal from 55m.

                                That put the Cats in front and they went on with it from there.

                                GEELONG 1.4 4.5 9.12 11.18 (84) WESTERN BULLDOGS 2.4 5.5 7.6 11.9 (75)

                                GOALS Geelong: Motlop, Stokes 2, Chapman, Duncan, Hawkins, J. Hunt, Mackie, Podsiadly, Johnson

                                Western Bulldogs: Grant 2, Picken, Dickson, Skinner, Cordy, Giansiracusa, Griffen, Higgins, Jones, Roughead

                                BEST Geelong: Mackie, Chapman, Corey, Bartel, Kelly, Guthrie, Corey, Duncan

                                Western Bulldogs: Boyd, Cooney, Cross, Liberatore, Murphy, Roughead, Picken

                                INJURIES Geelong: J. Hunt (calf) Western Bulldogs: Griffen (wrist)

                                Reports: Nil

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