Round 2 Preview - Adelaide Crows v Western Bulldogs

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Re: Round 2 Preview - Adelaide Crows v Western Bulldogs

Who do you think would be good as a second tagger. It needs to be someone who can run all day like Picken.

With the team selected I would go for Addison as the second tagger. I'm not sure that many teams would ever take two negating players into a game this early in a season.

I like the idea of having a Boyd or Cross tagging except we need more pace and better disposal at this point of time, not another tagger. If Morris came back into the side you would drop Addison and use a Cross or Boyd if needed. With no Morris we need Cross and Boyd to get the ball and do something with it.

Dynamic's of football and how an injury or two can really upset the apple cart!

[Eastdog]

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Dynamic's of football and how an injury or two can really upset the apple cart!

For sure one injury or two and it has an impact. Addison is that kind of player who tries hard and gives a lot of effort and will play most weeks in the first team. Do you think Bumper Bulldogs the team can function without a tagger?

[Bulldog Revolution]

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Cheers Griff,

I've seen very little of the Crows preseason apart from a quarter of the NAB GF

Based on last season I'd think Wood might be a good matchup for Sloane

Presumably Boyd will go head to head with Thompson. Picken might be the option for Vince who is up and running or Dangerfield

We need Minson to get a hold of Jacobs

[LostDoggy]

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If you move Djerrkura to the BP and use Addison as the Tagger on Vince there are some positives to rotating the two players through that role , Addison was the second player to have 100% disposal efficiency against the Eagles ( the other was the Howitzer ) , he also did,nt give away any free kicks . If Addison and DJ could make an effective tag rotation BP/ midfield you would have to include Higgins in the mix in that rotation as one player is going to be on the bench , so the tag rotation BP/ midfield with Addison, Djerrkura and Higgins would be targeted at Bernie Vince and Jared Petrenko

Now by taking Higgins out of the forward line mix you would have to have Clay Smith spending more time forward , looking at the overall tactical picture its a tactic that could work and it still fits within Macca,s structure for the midfield ( from what we have seen so far )

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[azabob]

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Well they might get it, but they cannot be given space. We need another tagger type in our side. One Picken is not enough.

I think one hard tag is enough. The other midfielders need to have a defensive mindset when the opposition have the ball.

What other clubs go in with two lock down players?

[Eastdog]

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I think one hard tag is enough. The other midfielders need to have a defensive mindset when the opposition have the ball.

What other clubs go in with two lock down players?

I agree. I think one tag is all we need. Do you think some teams work well still without a hard tag?

[Ghost Dog]

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If Picken gets injured, he will leave a massive hole and scratching my head to think who would fill it.
Who in here is from Adelaide and what's the vibe over there about this game?

[Throughandthrough]

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The vibe here is that the Crows will easily win. There "best ever forward line in the history of the club" will badly over stretch us.

[azabob]

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The vibe here is that the Crows will easily win. There "best ever forward line in the history of the club" will badly over stretch us.

Walker is more a lead up rather than pack type mark? If only Morris was available to take care of him, and surely Tippet can't have 2 good games in a row?!

[LostDoggy]

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If Picken gets injured, he will leave a massive hole and scratching my head to think who would fill it.
Who in here is from Adelaide and what's the vibe over there about this game?

The way Adelaide have structured the forward line the basic game plan is to try to hit a leading target with a 20m to 30m flat pass , if they manage to get clean possession on either side of the square consistently there is no point dropping numbers back to block space or cut off the passes , we have to force them wider and delay the pass with good pressure so the kick into the Crows forward line becomes a 40m kick slightly higher on a 30 or more deg angle , this gives our defense a little more time to block, spoil or contest the mark , when we get possession we have to break quickly to the opposite side then cut back to the middle to players like Liberatore and Cooney who can then try to hit our own leading targets , Jones has to stay higher than the 30m arc and try to keep his leads as straight as possible , if Dickson can stay higher than the 40m arc but wider out and makes his leads on an angle towards the ball carrier in both cases it gives us better options than we had against the Eagles

Picken can tag Dangerfield and if he can keep him quiet and also if we try the double tag on Vince ( as I posted before ) http://www.woof.net.au/forum/showpos...9&postcount=19 , I don,t believe its negative football its about closing up the space and denying them the time to move the ball quickly , its a hard balance trying to slow them down but at the same trying to break quickly ourselves to push forward , part of that is keeping players on their feet there is no point having three or four players on the ground contesting the ball as there is only a 20% chance you can clear the ball if you win the ball , Macca has made it the primary goal to get control of the ball no matter what and we are getting our hands on it but its what we do with the ball after that that counts , Boyd had a disposal efficiency of only 53% ,Higgins 67% ,Wood 57% ,Gia 57% and a total of 16 players with a
disposal efficiency below 75%

Against Adelaide the pass mark is getting our hands on the ball and using it as efficiently as possible while denying them the time and space to do the same


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[Ghost Dog]

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The way Adelaide have structured the forward line the basic game plan is to try to hit a leading target with a 20m to 30m flat pass , if they manage to get clean possession on either side of the square consistently there is no point dropping numbers back to block space or cut off the passes , we have to force them wider and delay the pass with good pressure so the kick into the Crows forward line becomes a 40m kick slightly higher on a 30 or more deg angle , this gives our defense a little more time to block, spoil or contest the mark , when we get possession we have to break quickly to the opposite side then cut back to the middle to players like Liberatore and Cooney who can then try to hit our own leading targets , Jones has to stay higher than the 30m arc and try to keep his leads as straight as possible , if Dickson can stay higher than the 40m arc but wider out and makes his leads on an angle towards the ball carrier in both cases it gives us better options than we had against the Eagles

Picken can tag Dangerfield and if he can keep him quiet and also if we try the double tag on Vince ( as I posted before ) http://www.woof.net.au/forum/showpos...9&postcount=19 , I don,t believe its negative football its about closing up the space and denying them the time to move the ball quickly , its a hard balance trying to slow them down but at the same trying to break quickly ourselves to push forward , part of that is keeping players on their feet there is no point having three or four players on the ground contesting the ball as there is only a 20% chance you can clear the ball if you win the ball , Macca has made it the primary goal to get control of the ball no matter what and we are getting our hands on it but its what we do with the ball after that that counts , Boyd had a disposal efficiency of only 53% ,Higgins 67% ,Wood 57% ,Gia 57% and a total of 16 players with a
disposal efficiency below 75%

Against Adelaide the pass mark is getting our hands on the ball and using it as efficiently as possible while denying them the time and space to do the same


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Pray for rain.

Wow you've really thought about all this.
Tippet on Murphy....good god. 202cm V 186cm

Minson has to have a massive one today. Coach has shown his faith in him.

[Bornadog]

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Tippet on Murphy....good god. 202cm V 186cm .

That would be the worst match up of all time. Tippet is a monster.

[LostDoggy]

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Wow you've really thought about all this.
Tippet on Murphy....good god. 202cm V 186cm

Where exactly did I say that , its Picken on Dangerfield and Addison, Djerrkura and Higgins in tag rotation through BP and Midfield on Petrenko and Vince , no mention at all anywhere on Murphy on Tippett , read it again carefully

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[Ghost Dog]

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Where exactly did I say that , its Picken on Dangerfield and Addison, Djerrkura and Higgins in tag rotation through BP and Midfield on Petrenko and Vince , no mention at all anywhere on Murphy on Tippett , read it again carefully

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wasn't being sarcastic.yours was a pretty detailed analysis - nice one.

Re-Murph, Wasn't quoting your post, just a general comment after seeing the match ups in the paper with Murph's name under Tippet ( theage ) gave me goosebumps. If they get as much 50 entry as the Weagles did last week, going to be a long trip home on the team bus.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

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For sure one injury or two and it has an impact. Addison is that kind of player who tries hard and gives a lot of effort and will play most weeks in the first team. Do you think Bumper Bulldogs the team can function without a tagger?

Good teams can get by, but i really think that the better teams have a tagger that is always doing a Job and doing it well, look at the way Ballentine got under the Geelong team, Ling, Baker & Sewell are a couple more.

I also think back to the days we had Libba, Smith, Romero & Garlic. Sides knew they were in for a bad day at the office.