Game Day 2012 - R3 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

[Eastdog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R3 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

2-3 years ago we were in the hunt for the premiership and now languishing near the bottom. How things can change.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R3 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Be good to see if Macca gives Panos a game. How has he been going for Willy.

Panos has,nt played as a pure FF for a while , mainly being used as a defender , he's a long way from where he needs to be if we want him to step up to AFL level as a key position forward

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[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R3 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

I talked about this in other threads. Winning the ball has never been this team's problem, to focus on it was facetious at best by macca. He has been given an easy pass because it looks okay even when you're losing, and he's not expected to win games. Eade actually had to try to score goals the other way as well.

The stupidest part about focusing on winning the ball is that in team field sport, tactically speaking, the most important player isn't actually the guy who wins the ball but the second guy in the play ie the receiver (as their positioning makes the ballwinner's job clear), then the third player in the chain. However, our guys only ever think about getting their hands on the ball, so we have 5 guys attacking the ball, with absolute dumbness about creating the second ball. Of course, because we have no idea about creating the second and third ball, we don't know how to defend against it either so smart midfields just carve us up around the stoppages where we're not covering.

[Scraggers]

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I think a lot of people are avoiding the big white elephant sitting in the corner ...

I have heard nothing about McCartney ... Last year virtually every loss was Eade's fault ... Eade wasn't doing this or Eade wasn't doing that or what was Eade thinking ????

IMO McCartney got a free ride today ... We got rid of Rocket for ???????

[Eastdog]

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Panos has,nt played as a pure FF for a while , mainly being used as a defender , he's a long way from where he needs to be if we want him to step up to AFL level as a key position forward

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Who would be good to try at FF?

[Mantis]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R3 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Teams will structure up to let us almost fight each other to win the contested ball knowing full well that we'll cough it up through abysmal skill errors, abysmal decision making or a combination of both. We will get killed on the spread every week against half-decent teams with semi-decent skills and pace.

We were extremely flat-footed around the contest tonight. We played handball games with each and as soon as we made a skill error, which was inevietable, the Saints were off to the races.

We've known our skills were heading south for a couple of seasons, and yet we pick a one-paced contested ball winner with abysmal disposal at our 1st pick in the ND. Staggwring.

First time I had saw Smith in the flesh and I really hoped he just had a bad one, but with that kicking action I doubt it.

[GVGjr]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R3 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

I have sat through a lot of bad performances. This was right up there. It's not like we were dismantled by a premiership challenger. I feel embarrassed. Totally embarrassed.

[LostDoggy]

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I miss Rodney

FDOTM , there was for a time there a team who could run and carry and easily score a 100 or more points week to week , I don,t think you miss Rodney I think you have misplaced the clock you could wind backwards , where is it and what did you do with it ?

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[Bumper Bulldogs]

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I think a lot of people are avoiding the big white elephant sitting in the corner ...

I have heard nothing about McCartney ... Last year virtually every loss was Eade's fault ... Eade wasn't doing this or Eade wasn't doing that or what was Eade thinking ????

IMO McCartney got a free ride today ... We got rid of Rocket for ???????

Yes I must admit I was asking the something, the coach made the call on the side and the call on the day, we got smashed in the middle and the alls didn't work out as planned..... Let sub a small off,

Murphy our best ball user left on Milne in the back pocket....don't move him up in the play

Shaggy playing on Fisher. Yes he did Ok but why not swap him and Murp over

Just ask everyone to get a man, the under 12's can do it why guys hat are AFL footballers, clearly the zone thing you want to play wasn't working so stick at it a bit longer as we can score a few goals in junk time when the saint put the que in the rack.

I suppose the coach and his is in the box were happy o noy ask our guys to man up and at least make the saint accountable....well done I can't wait to come back next week and see this exciting brand of football that you are teaching our kids to play.

Well maybe we could watch a few more Geelong games and feel better about our aspirations

[Mofra]

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First time I had saw Smith in the flesh and I really hoped he just had a bad one, but with that kicking action I doubt it.

It's an awkward ball drop, very close to his quad. I'd hope if his drop can be fixed his kicking would improve rapidly, but how many players who are poor kicks become good ones?
Jobe Watson is one who springs to mind, although Dalhaus was a poor kick as a junior apparently.

[LostDoggy]

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Disgraceful.........The list looks very slow. What I learnt over the weekend is that Carlton cheated, received 3 #1 draft picks and now look a good for the flag. Clubs like Carlton, WCE, Pies, Cats dont except anything less than success, They will put everything in place to make it happen. Who does that! The administration, they employ the best, until we do that we will always be in the middle, or this year case, at the bottom of the pack!

[LostDoggy]

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I think a lot of people are avoiding the big white elephant sitting in the corner ...

I have heard nothing about McCartney ... Last year virtually every loss was Eade's fault ... Eade wasn't doing this or Eade wasn't doing that or what was Eade thinking ????

IMO McCartney got a free ride today ... We got rid of Rocket for ???????

I've been saying it all summer but i was a lone voice. Also see my previous post re macca's facetious focus on ballwinning. I also spoke strongly against smith's selection... some have been saying that he had an okay kick but they must be watching a different player to me. As ive said many many times about that selection, what the hell did we need another bull at the gate, crap decision making, rubbish kicking, hardarse dumb ballwinner for? Like we needed our midfield IQ to go down any more?

[Mofra]

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Yes I must admit I was asking the something, the coach made the call on the side and the call on the day, we got smashed in the middle and the alls didn't work out as planned..... Let sub a small off

I do worry about our decision to play a spare man in defence - our forwardline is just not good enough to play a man short.
Against West Coast we played a spare man in defence in the 3rd quarter and it started their run on.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R3 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Who would be good to try at FF?

If we could manage it Austin has the build and defensive smarts but with Lake probably having a holiday , if he's elevated he will have to go to CHB and Markovic to FB

Skinner also makes a case as a FF but that would only work properly if he had Dalhaus riding shotgun to rove spilled marks

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[Mantis]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R3 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

It's an awkward ball drop, very close to his quad. I'd hope if his drop can be fixed his kicking would improve rapidly, but how many players who are poor kicks become good ones?
Jobe Watson is one who springs to mind, although Dalhaus was a poor kick as a junior apparently.

My brother-in-law did a coaching course just recently and a section focused on the mechanics of kicking, the instructor said that Clay Smith has the worst action he has seen in his time.