Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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I think we need to groom a proper FF, whether it's Hill or Panos or Cordy and persevere with them for the year.

In Hill and Austin.

Out Lake (suspended) and Higgins

I am hoping that Lake survives. I agree with the need to develop a new FF and even a CHF and would therefore like to see Panos at FF and Cordy at CHF with Jones being a FP marking forward changing Minson and Roughead as our rucking options from the interchange bench. The forward line needs a complete overhaul with only Dahlhaus posing a threat in our attack.
I would make 4 changes as follows:
Ins. Panos Dickson Sherman and Wallis
Out. Smith Wood Addison Grant

[AndrewP6]

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QFT.

Was it one of the Scott twins who said "mid sized player kick the bulk of goals at AFL level anyway"?

Summed up well by Norf today - Bastinac and Ziebell kicked 8 of Norf's goals between them in their win over Geelong.

[Sedat]

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The more I think about it, the more I want Sherman in for Roughead. Adds speed, run and (yes, frustratingly for fans) unpredictability.

I'm probably his harshest critic but we are so desperate for some run and verve outside the congestion that even I'd bring Sherman in this week. Hopefully he can keen his frequent brain fades and woeful decision making to a minimum this week.

Having said that, McCartney gave praise to Roughead this week so it would be a big surprise to see him sacrificed at selection.

[comrade]

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Summed up well by Norf today - Bastinac and Ziebell kicked 8 of Norf's goals between them in their win over Geelong.

I like Bastinac, moves well across the ground and is a natural footballer.

He's so far ahead of Howard it's not funny.

[LostDoggy]

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Ok next week:

FB: Addison, Markovic, Talia
HB: Higgins*, Cordy, Picken
C: Wallis, Liberatore, Dalhaus
HF: Murphy, Jones, Veszpremi
FF: Panos, Campbell, Giansircusa*
F: Minson* ^, Boyd, Griffen
Bench: Cooney, Djerrkura, Sherman, Skinner (s)

*playing for their spot this week.
^ not to play in forward line at all. Must ruck all day.

In: Talia, Wallis, Veszpremi, Panos, Campbell, Sherman, Skinner
Out: Wood, Hargrave, Roughead, J Grant, C Smith, Cross, Lake (suspended 1 match)

I understand that Austin is injured, otherwise would have been tempted to put him in for Talia.

Sorry but we have to mix it up fairly regularly until we start winning. Players have to know that a bad loss results automatically in 1/3 of the team being dropped. Simple as that. Then you will start getting results.

Making that many changes would be an overreaction , Talia is only young and still learning - needs more game time at Willi , Panos hasn,t played as a KP forward for a while - being used as a defender at Willi , Veszpremi is also being used as a defender at Willi - needs to improve his disposal efficiency , Skinner is not in great form , Campbell is still raw and needs more time , Sherman still has to improve his disposal efficiency , Wallis did well on the weekend and may push for selection

Against Melbourne we have a great chance to get our first win of 2012 , Macca will stick with his game plan but may change the structure , I don,t believe there will be more than three maybe four changes , Lake looks like he might get two or three weeks holiday so if Austin is elevated he most likely will go to CHB and Markovic to FB , as much as I don,t want to bounce Cordy after one game Tommy Hill had a solid game on the weekend and could push for selection at FF , if we drop Grant and bring in Wallis then we need to consider who we use as a forward rotation , if we drop Hargrave and bring in Veszpremi as a defender we lose some height from our defense but he could rotate forward

FB ......Wood.........Markovic......Addison
HB..Veszpremi.........Austin.......Murphy
C.....Griffen..............Boyd...........Picken
HF...Roughead....Giansiracusa....Jones
FF....Dahlhaus.........T Hill.........Cooney

FOLL..Minson..Cross..Liberatore

Bench..Smith..Djerrkura..Wallis Sub..Grant

In..Austin ( elevated LTIL ) , T Hill , Veszpremi , Wallis

Out..Lake ( suspended ) , Hargrave , Higgins , Cordy

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[F'scary]

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Austin has played VFL the last two weeks.
Panos has not played any football last two weeks.
Both Austin and Campbell are rookie listed.

Gilbee & Williams on long term injured list, room now for Austin & Campbell.

Shite, mixed up Panos's fortunes for Austin.

Ok, Austin in for Lake. Redpath for Panos as named above.

Same principal applies

[Hotdog60]

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Gilbee & Williams on long term injured list, room now for Austin & Campbell.

Shite, mixed up Panos's fortunes for Austin.

Ok, Austin in for Lake. Redpath for Panos as named above.

Same principal applies

I thought Gilbee was only a month, is that a long term injury?

[GVGjr]

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Gilbee & Williams on long term injured list, room now for Austin & Campbell.

Shite, mixed up Panos's fortunes for Austin.

Ok, Austin in for Lake. Redpath for Panos as named above.

Same principal applies

Redpath? He's a mile of it plus he is a rookie.

[GVGjr]

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I thought Gilbee was only a month, is that a long term injury?

He is only a month away.

[F'scary]

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Redpath? He's a mile of it plus he is a rookie.

sorry, meant the pre-season draft pick, Fletcher Roberts.

Basically, they've just got to start turning the players over and making no excuses. That's what "accountable" should mean not being all on the ball at once.

[F'scary]

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I thought Gilbee was only a month, is that a long term injury?

Knee-cap him if you have to

[F'scary]

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Making that many changes would be an overreaction , Talia is only young and still learning - needs more game time at Willi , Panos hasn,t played as a KP forward for a while - being used as a defender at Willi , Veszpremi is also being used as a defender at Willi - needs to improve his disposal efficiency , Skinner is not in great form , Campbell is still raw and needs more time , Sherman still has to improve his disposal efficiency , Wallis did well on the weekend and may push for selection

Against Melbourne we have a great chance to get our first win of 2012 , Macca will stick with his game plan but may change the structure , I don,t believe there will be more than three maybe four changes , Lake looks like he might get two or three weeks holiday so if Austin is elevated he most likely will go to CHB and Markovic to FB , as much as I don,t want to bounce Cordy after one game Tommy Hill had a solid game on the weekend and could push for selection at FF , if we drop Grant and bring in Wallis then we need to consider who we use as a forward rotation , if we drop Hargrave and bring in Veszpremi as a defender we lose some height from our defense but he could rotate forward

FB ......Wood.........Markovic......Addison
HB..Veszpremi.........Austin.......Murphy
C.....Griffen..............Boyd...........Picken
HF...Roughead....Giansiracusa....Jones
FF....Dahlhaus.........T Hill.........Cooney

FOLL..Minson..Cross..Liberatore

Bench..Smith..Djerrkura..Wallis Sub..Grant

In..Austin ( elevated LTIL ) , T Hill , Veszpremi , Wallis

Out..Lake ( suspended ) , Hargrave , Higgins , Cordy

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Well, that's your version and it's a good start. But just not enough being dropped. Every loss like this, it has to be at least a third of the team, maybe even half.

[AndrewP6]

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Well, that's your version and it's a good start. But just not enough being dropped. Every loss like this, it has to be at least a third of the team, maybe even half.

Wow. I thought I'd taken the loss hard.

[Rocco Jones]

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Redpath? He's a mile of it plus he is a rookie.

I know it's very early but at first glance Redpath looks like a ruckman pinch hitting up forward with the actual ability to ruck.

[always right]

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Well, that's your version and it's a good start. But just not enough being dropped. Every loss like this, it has to be at least a third of the team, maybe even half.

Half?....why not three quarters or four fifths? I never realised the answer to our woes was simply choosing the most appropriate mathematical formula. In these dark times it's good to find posts that give us a laugh.