Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

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  • always right
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 4189

    #76
    Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

    Roughead spent a considerable amount of time in defense on saturday and to my eye didn't look completely out of place. Would he have a natural match-up in the Melbourne forwardline......perhaps Jamar when he goes forward? I wouldn't mind seeing him tried there for this game rather than elevating Talia who whilst being a promising defender would need to make sure he used handball as much as possible in preference to kicking.
    I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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    • Dazza
      WOOF Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 548

      #77
      Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

      Out - Smith, Lake, Gia

      In - Wallis, Veszpremi, Sherman

      Play Wallis as the sub. Play Ayce in defence.

      Reasons for... Better use of the ball up forward. Added pace around the ground. A crumber for the big men. Wallis > Smith at the moment. Frees up Djekuerra(?) to play a whole game. You could potentially swap Murphy forward for Vez.

      At training this week it needs to be drilled into the players to lower their eyes and honour leads when entering the forward 50. Grant was burned a shitload over the weekend after watching the replay.

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      • Missing Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8501

        #78
        Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

        Originally posted by dazb
        Out - Smith, Lake, Gia

        In - Wallis, Veszpremi, Sherman

        Play Wallis as the sub. Play Ayce in defence.

        Reasons for... Better use of the ball up forward. Added pace around the ground. A crumber for the big men. Wallis > Smith at the moment. Frees up Djekuerra(?) to play a whole game. You could potentially swap Murphy forward for Vez.

        At training this week it needs to be drilled into the players to lower their eyes and honour leads when entering the forward 50. Grant was burned a shitload over the weekend after watching the replay.
        Thought Ayce got burnt too we just really need to be smarter with the football Bobby playing so deep didn't help this either.

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        • EasternWest
          Hall of Fame
          • Aug 2009
          • 10002

          #79
          Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

          Originally posted by Ozza
          INS - OUTS

          Wallis - Cross* I realise this won't happen.
          Sherman - Cordy
          Veszpremi - Addison

          Wood would be desperately lucky - but at this stage I'm willing to persist because of his physical attributes. Cordy is probably stiff - but we are too slow as it is.

          Would like to see Grant start and finish up forward - inside the 50.
          So you keep Wood who has struggled all year on the potential physical attributes (that he's failed to use thus far) but omit Addison who even bornadog (sorry BAD) admitted was one of our better players on the day. And let's not forget, playing in defense he was under siege all day. Wood cost us at least one goal, Addison was solid all day, and has been in all three games so far.

          Yeah he's limited, yeah he's a fringe player, but let's talk about dropping him when his form warrants it.

          I guess a WOOF match committe thread can't be complete without calls for an arbitrary Addison omission.
          "It's over. It's all over."

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14617

            #80
            Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

            Originally posted by EasternWest
            So you keep Wood who has struggled all year on the potential physical attributes (that he's failed to use thus far) but omit Addison who even bornadog (sorry BAD) admitted was one of our better players on the day. And let's not forget, playing in defense he was under siege all day. Wood cost us at least one goal, Addison was solid all day, and has been in all three games so far.

            Yeah he's limited, yeah he's a fringe player, but let's talk about dropping him when his form warrants it.

            I guess a WOOF match committe thread can't be complete without calls for an arbitrary Addison omission.
            Any chance your going to change your name back
            The curse is dead.

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            • neddie

              #81
              Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Please, let's try to be constructive on this thread. If you need to vent, do it on the match day thread.
              We had four more inside 50s than the Saints,we only kicked 5 goals,which indicates our fowards are disfuncial or delivery is deficient,I'm sure both will be improved and it's not all DOOM & GLOOM.

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              • EasternWest
                Hall of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 10002

                #82
                Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                Originally posted by chef
                Any chance your going to change your name back
                Damn. My cover's blown !

                Look, I've no problem with calls for any player to be shifted/dropped/moved if warranted by form. But why keep an underperforming player on "what he might do next time" at the expense of a guy who hasn't done anything wrong to deserve it. I don't want to be seen as having a go at Ozza, because he/she is entitled to his/her opinion, but I can't see the reason for why Wood should stay and Dylan go.

                And if I don't stick up for the little guy, who will?
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #83
                  Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                  Assuming that Lake is given enforced leave I'd go with the following:
                  * Sherman for Smith
                  * Veszpremi for Lake (I would also consider Hill if going tall and Wallis would be a line ball)

                  I'd play Roughead at CHB and Marko at FB. Vespa at HBF and move Murphy to CHF. Sherman on the wing. Smith has done nothing much wrong just think at this stage of his development someone like Sherman offers more and a run at Willi wouldn't hurt him.

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                  • Missing Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8501

                    #84
                    Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                    Originally posted by EasternWest
                    Damn. My cover's blown !

                    Look, I've no problem with calls for any player to be shifted/dropped/moved if warranted by form. But why keep an underperforming player on "what he might do next time" at the expense of a guy who hasn't done anything wrong to deserve it. I don't want to be seen as having a go at Ozza, because he/she is entitled to his/her opinion, but I can't see the reason for why Wood should stay and Dylan go.

                    And if I don't stick up for the little guy, who will?
                    I will really liked him and Marko on saturday night and and thought he should have gone to Milne. Bob really needs to be further up the ground our forward 50 entries were the worst I have seen at our club.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66700

                      #85
                      Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                      Originally posted by bulldogsimmo
                      Assuming that Lake is given enforced leave I'd go with the following:
                      * Sherman for Smith
                      * Veszpremi for Lake (I would also consider Hill if going tall and Wallis would be a line ball)

                      I'd play Roughead at CHB and Marko at FB. Vespa at HBF and move Murphy to CHF. Sherman on the wing. Smith has done nothing much wrong just think at this stage of his development someone like Sherman offers more and a run at Willi wouldn't hurt him.
                      I like this^^^^

                      Smith is only 18 and will learn more at Willi. We need to do something with Wood, twice in the 3rd quarter he got caught, coughed up the ball and bang two goals in a row.

                      We need to see if Vez can play at this level, so he must come in as well.
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                      • Desipura
                        WOOF Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4344

                        #86
                        Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                        Originally posted by strebla
                        I will really liked him and Marko on saturday night and and thought he should have gone to Milne. Bob really needs to be further up the ground our forward 50 entries were the worst I have seen at our club.
                        Ok, got it, Wood on Milne

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                        • The Bulldogs Bite
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11245

                          #87
                          Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                          Sherman and Veszpremi are two absolute musts.

                          I personally don't think we need both Roughead and Cordy against Melbourne. Roughy isn't offering enough up forward at the moment and Cordy can't compete in the ruck, so I would be tempted to bring Tom Hill in who can play down back, in the ruck or up forward. IF Lake is suspended, one of Roughy/Cordy stays in to play CHB.

                          Smith to return to Williamstown for Wallis.

                          One of Wood/Hargrave to be dropped based on form. Hargrave being shifted to the HF line may be an indication, but Wood has arguably been our worst thus far.

                          IN: Sherman, Veszpremi, Wallis, Hill
                          OUT: Smith, Cordy (OR) Roughead, Lake, Hargrave (OR) Wood
                          W00F!

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                          • The Pie Man
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2008
                            • 3497

                            #88
                            Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                            I'm liking some of the calls for Tom Hill's inclusion, as I was hugely impressed by what I saw on Saturday - does anyone think Jones needs a confidence boost in the VFL, or do we persist with development in the seniors and concede delivery to him has been the major factor in his poor form?
                            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                            • Ghost Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 9404

                              #89
                              Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                              Originally posted by The Pie Man
                              I'm liking some of the calls for Tom Hill's inclusion, as I was hugely impressed by what I saw on Saturday - does anyone think Jones needs a confidence boost in the VFL, or do we persist with development in the seniors and concede delivery to him has been the major factor in his poor form?
                              Poor form or poorly supported by those who need to deliver a bit better?
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                              • Ozza
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6401

                                #90
                                Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                                Originally posted by EasternWest
                                So you keep Wood who has struggled all year on the potential physical attributes (that he's failed to use thus far) but omit Addison who even bornadog (sorry BAD) admitted was one of our better players on the day. And let's not forget, playing in defense he was under siege all day. Wood cost us at least one goal, Addison was solid all day, and has been in all three games so far.

                                Yeah he's limited, yeah he's a fringe player, but let's talk about dropping him when his form warrants it.

                                I guess a WOOF match committe thread can't be complete without calls for an arbitrary Addison omission.
                                Its not all about how someone performs in one game. My preference is to look at where we are going as a footy club - and, within reason, sticking with blokes who will be in the team in 2 or 3 years when it is a bit of a line ball call.

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