A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

[jazzadogs]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

I think the coach may be deluded about the quality of the list and it's ability to compete for a finals berth. Yes.
I think the president and a large number of supporters are deluded about the talent on our list. Optimism is grand, but reality has a way of smacking you in the teeth with a stainless steel hammer.

I don't think McCartney is deluded enough to think that the list, in it's current state, will compete for finals. He has faith in his ability to teach and improve players, but I'm sure he would acknowledge that the list also needs a significant makeover.

[G-Mo77]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

It's poor form if it is. That sort of stuff should be done behind closed doors, and face to face.

Its not like you or anyone else knows who he's talking about and if anyone thinks they do they're only clutching at straws anyway. No biggie IMO.

[Remi Moses]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

You always know you're team isn't going well when fans continually make issues out of nothing.
The coach hasn't told us anything we don't know, he's just being transparent .

[FrediKanoute]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

Does anyone think this is perhaps a message to some of our players? Or his thoughts on some of our players?

No. The message is a puff piece to appease and increasingly angry mob. I have no doubt there are guys on the list who wont be there next year because they wont/can't follow McCartney's style, but I'm not reading anything into it.

[Maddog37]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

I think it is a heads up. He has said players were not following team rules. I interpret the message as you have had a warning and if you continue on this path you will be out.

[ledge]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

To me it means we have individuals and players that havent got confidence yet in their own abillity.
Maybe our last coach has psyched some into thinking they arent good enough or simply they arent good enough.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

To me it means we have individuals and players that havent got confidence yet in their own abillity.
Maybe our last coach has psyched some into thinking they arent good enough or simply they arent good enough.

Our current list is no where good enough if you were to compare it with what Macca was used to working with at Geelong.At the moment we have one quality backman in Murphy and one quality forward in Dahlhaus. This is a very undermanned team. You only need to have witnessed the difference between St Kilda and the WB on the scoreboard last Sunday compared to similar battles which were much closer previously between the two clubs.
I like BMcC's approach in his attempt to make us more competitive but at the end of the day it comes down to talent which we lack in so many areas.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

Our current list is no where good enough if you were to compare it with what Macca was used to working with at Geelong.At the moment we have one quality backman in Murphy and one quality forward in Dahlhaus. This is a very undermanned team. You only need to have witnessed the difference between St Kilda and the WB on the scoreboard last Sunday compared to similar battles which were much closer previously between the two clubs.
I like BMcC's approach in his attempt to make us more competitive but at the end of the day it comes down to talent which we lack in so many areas.

And 1 quality midfielder in Griffen

[ledge]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

Personally to me its our forward line and delivery into it, all else is pretty solid.
Get that right and we are up there.
How much time and work it takes and can it be done is the question.

[jazzadogs]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

I think it is a heads up. He has said players were not following team rules. I interpret the message as you have had a warning and if you continue on this path you will be out.

I interpret it as a message from the Coach to the members, which is completely separate to any conversation the coach might have had with the players. If he does feel that there are players not doing the team thing, I'm sure they've been made more than aware of it.

Last year people were complaining that there was no communication from the club, now they're trying to add something new and there's still complaints.

Gonna be a long year.

[ledge]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

I interpret it as a message from the Coach to the members, which is completely separate to any conversation the coach might have had with the players. If he does feel that there are players not doing the team thing, I'm sure they've been made more than aware of it.

Last year people were complaining that there was no communication from the club, now they're trying to add something new and there's still complaints.

Gonna be a long year.

Whos complaining about the communication?
This is disecting the communication thats put out and discussing it not complaining about the communication.

[jazzadogs]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

Whos complaining about the communication?
This is disecting the communication thats put out and discussing it not complaining about the communication.

Fair point. Misinterpreted what I read originally...apologies. I think last week there was a bit more scepticism about the quality/information in McCartney's message.

I've been really impressed with the standard of communication this year, and the improvements in Bulldogs TV, Twitter etc. Much better fan engagement.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

It's poor form if it is. That sort of stuff should be done behind closed doors, and face to face.

Make up your mind. In another thread you said "The presser should be the same tone as the closed door discussion. I disagree that the words are meaningless, they are indicative of mindset. The way we're going, false bravado would be an improvement".

So the presser should be the same tone as closed door discussion but BMac's letter to the members shouldn't?

[Ghost Dog]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

Our current list is no where good enough if you were to compare it with what Macca was used to working with at Geelong.At the moment we have one quality backman in Murphy and one quality forward in Dahlhaus. This is a very undermanned team. You only need to have witnessed the difference between St Kilda and the WB on the scoreboard last Sunday compared to similar battles which were much closer previously between the two clubs.
I like BMcC's approach in his attempt to make us more competitive but at the end of the day it comes down to talent which we lack in so many areas.

Brian Lake is not quality?
We all know Ryan Hargrave is down on form but - he is not quality as a defender?
Djekurra is untalented as a forward?
Gia has no qualities to offer?
Liam Jones is without quality?
Marco - A young player but one who the coach has mentioned twice in press conferences as being impressive. Lacks ANY kind of quality?

[stefoid]

Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney -April 17th

Our current list is no where good enough if you were to compare it with what Macca was used to working with at Geelong.At the moment we have one quality backman in Murphy and one quality forward in Dahlhaus. This is a very undermanned team. You only need to have witnessed the difference between St Kilda and the WB on the scoreboard last Sunday compared to similar battles which were much closer previously between the two clubs.
I like BMcC's approach in his attempt to make us more competitive but at the end of the day it comes down to talent which we lack in so many areas.

I dont think the difference in playing lists between the saints and the dogs is that great. We had a system failure, not a failure of individuals. Having a few more high quality players will win you tight arm wrestles -- it wont result in the type of blowout we had unless one teams's system breaks down.