Game Day 2012 - R4 Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R4 Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne

Clearly you are not a Cross fan and only look at the times he makes an error and judge his whole game on that. I thought he played a very good game and almost best on the ground.

Agree, I thought Cross battled well tonight, in conditions that suit him. He did make a couple of errors, but by and large I thought he did very well.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R4 Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne

Clearly you are not a Cross fan and only look at the times he makes an error and judge his whole game on that. I thought he played a very good game and almost best on the ground.

When the heat was on in that last quarter, Cross basically turned it over every time he got it.

You're right I am not a fan of Cross -- he is finished.

[Bornadog]

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His disposal efficiency was so high due to the fact that on a couple of times late in quarters he got some back and forth cheapies as we tried to waste time. .

He had 9 marks and 26 disposals. They didn't mainly come from the chipping around in the last three minutes.

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R4 Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne

When the heat was on in that last quarter, Cross basically turned it over every time he got it.

You're right I am not a fan of Cross -- he is finished.

Well your wrong he is not finished.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Well your wrong he is not finished.

Obviously he's going to play games given his 2 year contract, but he shouldn't.

A young player (eg. Libba, Wallis, Smith) offer us more than Cross do and clearly have 8-10 years of footy in them.

I'm tired of seeing Cross using his left foot. Why does he bother? He can't even kick on his right, but he uses his left!? It's absurd.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Obviously he's going to play games given his 2 year contract, but he shouldn't.

A young player (eg. Libba, Wallis, Smith) offer us more than Cross do and clearly have 8-10 years of footy in them.

I'm tired of seeing Cross using his left foot. Why does he bother? He can't even kick on his right, but he uses his left!? It's absurd.

Crossy is required until players like Libba, Smith and Wallis can back up week after week. They are not at his level, although they show signs they can be as good or better than his best.

Don't see the problem with kickng on his left as it is no worse han his right.

[LostDoggy]

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Obviously he's going to play games given his 2 year contract, but he shouldn't.

A young player (eg. Libba, Wallis, Smith) offer us more than Cross do and clearly have 8-10 years of footy in them.

I'm tired of seeing Cross using his left foot. Why does he bother? He can't even kick on his right, but he uses his left!? It's absurd.

I'm with you on this issue. The bloke has been a good warrior but he is too slow and doesnt hurt the opposition with his disposals. Cost us a shocker earlier in the game when he decided to go backwards.

Minds you, the history of our club is we will keep playing these blokes ...... I remember going through the same scenario with Scotty West and Doug Hawkins.

[Eastdog]

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Just got home from the game. Relieved with the win. Dahlhaus was great and in the end out experience won it I believe. Both sides were sloppy and you can tell we and Melbourne are gonna struggle this season.

[always right]

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Some posters get fixated on certain players and their deficiencies to the extent it doesen't matter what they do. Shaggy and Cross have their shortcomings but tonight Cross was important particularly in the first half. As for turnovers there was one by Crossy that cost us a goal and Shaggy kicked to the opposition once tonight. Otherwise they were both solid.

[1eyedog]

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Clearly you are not a Cross fan and only look at the times he makes an error and judge his whole game on that. I thought he played a very good game and almost best on the ground.

We were watching a different game. Spilt chest marks and backwards kicking and turnovers do not equal BOG.

I thought Sherman was very good, he went in hard today and his backing back into that pack was very courageous. Great left foot snap off one step and completely unbalanced was a brilliant and timely goal. Well done Shermo.

[Desipura]

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He had 9 marks and 26 disposals. They didn't mainly come from the chipping around in the last three minutes.

Cmon Bornadog, you can throw me all the stats you like, Cross was finished 12 months ago as a footballer yet we give him 2 more years, this is a joke! We are a charity that give loyal servants a few extra years. Its not as if we have money to burn!

[Bumper Bulldogs]

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Obviously he's going to play games given his 2 year contract, but he shouldn't.

A young player (eg. Libba, Wallis, Smith) offer us more than Cross do and clearly have 8-10 years of footy in them.

I'm not sure a two year contract was warranted for Cross, but I would have been pleased with 12 months. We need him as he gets in and under, blocks, talks and leads the way on the training track.

If the 3 above are better then him they will get games, but its a long season and these kids will need protection and Cross is the man for the job.

Yes they are more than likely going to be better than him (skill wise) but non of them have any consistency yet and plenty of WOOFERS had been asking you the young guys heads over the last few weeks.

[LostDoggy]

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If i recall correctly, when we got DJ, word was he had all the abilities but just didn't know what to and often ran in circles. Basically how he played last year
Looks significantly better this year and hopefully he can go on and become a real player

Grant playing essentially as a small is great to see, using his speed rather than trying to be the key. His pressure is a mile up now as well


Watching Melbourne, they could be in some serious trouble. Weren't they very close to full strength? They went against one of the league's weaker team, missing 4 players from the back line turning nearly our only strength into a weakness and were just terrible. They don't even have great young talent, Watts is a spud. I would put them just in front of GWS, GC may have already passed them

[SonofScray]

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Really enjoyed the game of Grant, Wallis and DJ from the POV that they all have clear ability but haven't shown much of what they've got at this level. Tonight they put in some real solid performances, effective at almost every contest they got involved in.

Cordy, he is young but we need him to make a stronger contest at times. Its like he hasn't got that ability to grit his teeth and just exert that extra bit of energy to ensure he beats his opponent. It will come, I'm sure and he worked hard but without that bit of extra effort he will struggle.

Gia. Must be injured, finished his opportunities well but mostly he was a liability tonight. I thought even Higgins would have given us more. Speaking of, off the bench he had a better outing than I expected. Got involved and showed some courage which is rare but but well received and appreciated by the fans. Keep up the good work.

Roughhead played a very complete big man's game I felt. Just performed well above expectations and did a really good job in unfamiliar territory as a FB/CHB. He assisted really well by the bullish work of Addison, who is much maligned but true to his best qualities just went in harder and harder each contest and bested his man when the heat was on.

We've got a mountain of work to do, but I liked a few positional changes Mac made i.e. Cooney fwd and Jones higher up the field. We won't be getting too many wins, so while it was only the Dees we may as well enjoy it.

[The Doctor]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R4 Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne

When the heat was on in that last quarter, Cross basically turned it over every time he got it.

You're right I am not a fan of Cross -- he is finished.

I agree. Thought this last year.