Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

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  • Dazza
    Draftee
    • Mar 2009
    • 552

    #46
    Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

    Jeez we really need a dangerous ball user. At the moment if teams shut down Murphy, Griffen and Dahlhaus the rest of the side will chip it sideways/bomb long to a contest.

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    • G-Mo77
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Apr 2007
      • 9873

      #47
      Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

      IN: Markovic, Hargrave, Giansiracusa
      OUT: Vezpremi, Austin, Roughead

      I was really impressed with Vez last week but against GWS seemed a little off. I'm happy to swap him for Wood though as he's had fewer chances than Easton.

      Austin was very ordinary and Marko is much better at this stage so an easy swap there.

      Roughead just the odd one out this week, you could even have Cordy here even though he did play a better game. Either would be unlucky.

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      • LongWait
        Draftee
        • Sep 2009
        • 938

        #48
        Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

        Originally posted by dazb
        Jeez we really need a dangerous ball user. At the moment if teams shut down Murphy, Griffen and Dahlhaus the rest of the side will chip it sideways/bomb long to a contest.
        So, so true Daz. We'd better be looking to draft some kids who can kick it or we are never going to win that bloody elusive second flag.

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        • Missing-Dog
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 3102

          #49
          Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

          Originally posted by LongWait
          So, so true Daz. We'd better be looking to draft some kids who can kick it or we are never going to win that bloody elusive second flag.
          We have Tutt who can kick and is very quick, but think we will need atleast another 2 this coming draft (fingers crossed)

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          • Ozza
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Mar 2008
            • 6402

            #50
            Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

            Originally posted by Mantis
            And you've picked Gia as that runner??

            Hopefully the week off has helped his running capabilities, because he was labouring in his first 4 games.
            He's been used in the midfield at times during the year - and when fit, does cover a lot of ground and gets free of his man via work rate - so yeah, he's a 'runner' more so than Cordy - even if that running is very very slow.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #51
              Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

              I think Gia should play deep forward. He's a really smart player, uses his body really well in contests and has good hands. If he can get some 1 out contests deep i could see him being really dangerous.

              But he needs to have his turn in the midfield to allow players to rest (Cooney, Griffen) so if his not fit enough to do that then he probably shouldn't be playing.

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              • Ghost Dog
                WOOF Member
                • May 2010
                • 9404

                #52
                Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

                Originally posted by Jaytee
                I think Gia should play deep forward. He's a really smart player, uses his body really well in contests and has good hands. If he can get some 1 out contests deep i could see him being really dangerous.

                But he needs to have his turn in the midfield to allow players to rest (Cooney, Griffen) so if his not fit enough to do that then he probably shouldn't be playing.
                Gia in the midfield. Picken forward. Try something new .
                Why do we hang on to players for so long / hesitate to try new things?
                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #53
                  Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

                  Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                  Wood is absolutely dreadful at the moment, he's probably desperate himself to be dropped he's playing that badly!

                  Roughy unlucky.

                  IN: Markovic, Hargrave, Giansiracusa
                  OUT: Austin, Wood, Roughead
                  Ditto for me

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                  • Drunken Bum
                    Rookie List
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 435

                    #54
                    Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

                    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                    Wood is absolutely dreadful at the moment, he's probably desperate himself to be dropped he's playing that badly!

                    Roughy unlucky.

                    IN: Markovic, Hargrave, Giansiracusa
                    OUT: Austin, Wood, Roughead
                    Originally posted by Remi Moses
                    Ditto for me


                    It isn't quite unanimous but it isn't very far off with most peoples variations having at least two of these ins and outs. I don't think i have ever seen so many people agreeing or close to it in a match committee thread before

                    FWIW they are my ins and outs as well injuries/recoveries permitting
                    My life is a very complicated drinking game.

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21577

                      #55
                      Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

                      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                      Gia in the midfield. Picken forward. Try something new .
                      Why do we hang on to players for so long / hesitate to try new things?
                      GD, I like the idea of Gia in the midfield. Realistically, Gia has been a player that has played to the needs of the team due to our inept recruiting, a lot like Brad Johnson had to, and hasn't been able to thrive in the position on the ground where he's most suited.

                      The only issue I have with him going in to the midfield and Picken going forward is we lose pace, and accountability. Having Boyd, Cross and Picken in the midfield is slow and unaccountable enough, though having Boyd, Cross and Gia in the midfield is almost football suicide (though if you're talking about Picken doing a job on a fit Shaw then I could wear that, though we'd have to play Cooney in the midfield more - as Collingwood's mids wouldn't have a minder - to balance quality and pace).

                      I've been a detractor of Picken's ability to play more creative roles over recent seasons due to his lack of ball getting and using ability, though he's doing his best this year to prove me wrong (and I'm happy about that), and that leads me to think he belongs in the midfield. However, I also think Gia can work through the midfield, fitness permitting, because he's a very good user of the ball in contested situations and is creative going forward. Perhaps with Cooney spending more time up forward as the season goes on due to his physical condition there might be more of an opportunity for Gia to play in the middle anyway.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #56
                        Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        GD, I like the idea of Gia in the midfield.

                        I've been a detractor of Picken's ability to play more creative roles over recent seasons due to his lack of ball getting and using ability, though he's doing his best this year to prove me wrong (and I'm happy about that), and that leads me to think he belongs in the midfield. .
                        Look I totally agree. I understand Picken is much loved for his hardness, but he actually a very good kick of the ball. As a forward for Hamilton Imps he used to kick bags. At times as well, I think he sometimes plays a bit too much of the 'desperation' role and it makes him do silly things. It is possible to be clever and hard ( Bartel, Selwood ). Yet, he is the only guy on our team who I think opposition stars may hate matching up on.

                        Gia - he can only realistically play one of two roles. Forward pocket and midfield. We have a midfield full of his type. So I guess it's forward pocket or nothing. Just worry about current fitness to provide enough pressure. We leak the ball in our forward 50 and we saw that against GWS. Just comes out like water through a sieve.
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15320

                          #57
                          Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

                          Has anyone been to training this week?

                          I have heard we have a few important players struggling to get themselves up.

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                          • G-Mo77
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9873

                            #58
                            Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Has anyone been to training this week?

                            I have heard we have a few important players struggling to get themselves up.
                            Would Cooney be one of them? I've heard he may miss this week.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #59
                              Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

                              In Gia, Hargrave
                              Out Cordy and Grant both injured/sore

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66096

                                #60
                                Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs Collingwood

                                Originally posted by Chops
                                In Gia, Hargrave
                                Out Cordy and Grant both injured/sore
                                Cordy unlucky and looks like Marko hasn't come up. Big chance for Austin to see what he is made of. He will probably take Dawes and Lake on to Cloke? or the other way around
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