Round 6 - Bankers and Anchors

[Bornadog]

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But Higgins' was ok?

Forgot that one, post changed

[jeemak]

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if he deserves it fair enough. Tonight he played his best game.

Yeah he played well didn't he.

[EasternWest]

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Forgot that one, post changed

Fair enough. Seemed odd to leave that one out. Three pretty costly boo boos.

[jeemak]

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But Higgins' was ok?

His output was generally OK, though if he's not going to get a lot of it he needs to make every usage count and he certainly can't afford to turn the ball over like he did in the last.

[Ghost Dog]

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Think we should trade Higgins personally.
While he has that word "potential" we'll get something.
Just not urgent enough for mine!!

I feel I can't be objective about Higgo anymore. He contributes, but unsure often why the returns are not there. If he keeps working hard, I am sure they will come.

[Remi Moses]

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I feel I can't be objective about Higgo anymore. He contributes, but unsure often why the returns are not there. If he keeps working hard, I am sure they will come.

He is frustrating as any player at the club.
He just doesn't show enough urgency, and I just reckon some other clubs really rate him.

[jeemak]

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Think we should trade Higgins personally.
While he has that word "potential" we'll get something.
Just not urgent enough for mine!!

So we trade out a guy who is capable of kicking a couple of goals a game in a disfunctional forward line that gets serviced with very ordinary delivery?

What do we get in return? If you don't rate him, what's the liklihood of list managers of AFL clubs rating him highly enough for us to get reasonable compensation? With our drafting record (which is a significant contributing factor towards us being bereft of small to medium sized goal kickers) would you be happy for us to take our chances of utilising a low first round or a high second round pick and securing a goal kicker that's ready to go?

I think the word potential has to shelved when discussing Higgins. Sure, his output will increase as we improve as a side, though in our current predicament you're not going to get a lot more than he delivered today. If he cuts out the errors he'll be an effective player, that requires a very competent defender to shut him down. At this stage, he and Gia are the only small to medium sized players on the list you can say that about.

[G-Mo77]

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Bankers

Brian Lake. I've been riding this guy all pre-season and I'll happily say I was way off the mark. He's still one of the best backs in the league.

Ryan Griffen. He's taken his game to another level. Matthew Llyod should watch one of his games before opening his trap. No A Graders. Phhh!

Harry O'Brien. Our best avenue to goal.

Anchors.

Jones. Had a howler, felt sorry for him tonight. He'll be better for it.

Wood's hamstring injury. Cruel blow for him after putting together such a good performance.

Turnovers. You can list the usual suspect here but a lot of them also came from our better players.

[Ghost Dog]

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If he cuts out the errors he'll be an effective player, that requires a very competent defender to shut him down. At this stage, he and Gia are the only small to medium sized players on the list you can say that about.

In general, we have to improve our second efforts for four quarters, and tackling ferocity. I'd like to see our forwards have the mental toughness of our midfielders.

[Sedat]

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Bankers:
Libba - Terrific hands in tight did a lot of grunt work in close to free up his teammates
Griff - Got some telling possessions forward of the centre and also did some great work defensively
Wood - Shook off his awful previous form to play like he has teased us for the last couple of years. His rebound drive was outstanding until he got injured - we actually missed his drive in the last 40 minutes.

Anchors:
Bob, Higgins and Addison defensive 50 turnovers were all unbelievably poor skill execution errors. Actually our general skill level is abysmal and it undoes all the hard work we put in to win possession of the ball - we desperately need some skill injected into the team.
Jones - Was poor tonight. Didn't make himself dangerous and was beaten in a number of one-on-ones - wasn't a factor tonight.

[Eastdog]

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Was Cross more towards a Banker or was he more towards an Anchor. In my opinion he was more towards a Banker.

[Ghost Dog]

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Bankers:
Libba - Terrific hands in tight did a lot of grunt work in close to free up his teammates
Griff - Got some telling possessions forward of the centre and also did some great work defensively
Wood - Shook off his awful previous form to play like he has teased us for the last couple of years. His rebound drive was outstanding until he got injured - we actually missed his drive in the last 40 minutes.

Anchors:
Bob, Higgins and Addison defensive 50 turnovers were all unbelievably poor skill execution errors. Actually our general skill level is abysmal and it undoes all the hard work we put in to win possession of the ball - we desperately need some skill injected into the team.
Jones - Was poor tonight. Didn't make himself dangerous and was beaten in a number of one-on-ones - wasn't a factor tonight.

I'll defend Jones here because skills are related to f50 entry. Kicking it to your leading forward's ankles is no help.

[jeemak]

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Perhaps it is a body language thing. Often, what annoys me most is not the turnovers, or the missed shots, but sloppy tackles that won't stick and a poor second effort.

There's no excuse for the turnovers. A player of his skill level only makes those errors when he doesn't concentrate to the level required.

As for the tackling, if you note a lot of slipped tackles from him then it's probably a sign he's trying to lay them. Stats don't tell the story all the time, though he was credited with four effective tackles tonight. Maybe it is a body language thing with him. Without knowing the guy it's hard to say how his attitude is reflected in the way he carries himself.

[jeemak]

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Was Cross more towards a Banker or was he more towards an Anchor. In my opinion he was more towards a Banker.

I think you're on the money Eastdog. He played a good game.

[Ghost Dog]

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There's no excuse for the turnovers. A player of his skill level only makes those errors when he doesn't concentrate to the level required.

As for the tackling, if you note a lot of slipped tackles from him then it's probably a sign he's trying to lay them. Stats don't tell the story all the time, though he was credited with four effective tackles tonight. Maybe it is a body language thing with him. Without knowing the guy it's hard to say how his attitude is reflected in the way he carries himself.

Just like to see a bit more mongrel at times. The new coach will sort it out and back Higgo to have a few big games this season.