Match Committee- Round 7 vs North Melbourne

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  • Missing-Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 3102

    #16
    Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

    Out Wood
    In Cordy

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66707

      #17
      Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
      Back from injury or back into the senior side?
      Back in the seniors.
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      • The Pie Man
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2008
        • 3497

        #18
        Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Back in the seniors.
        I can see Grant coming in for Wood - but Cordy? Maybe for Jones, other than that we'd look very top heavy.

        Might be worthwhile trying Grant down back - haven't minded the rare glimpses of him down there previously. He does my head in playing forward.
        Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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        • whythelongface
          Coaching Staff
          • Jan 2007
          • 4487

          #19
          Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

          I can't understand the call to drop Jones. Who takes his place? Whoever takes his place will have the no. 1 defender and probably wont even get near the pill. Jones is a much better option than anyone else and the coaching staff will continue to persist with him.

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          • Bulldog4life
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 9607

            #20
            Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

            Originally posted by The Pie Man
            I can see Grant coming in for Wood - but Cordy? Maybe for Jones, other than that we'd look very top heavy.

            Might be worthwhile trying Grant down back - haven't minded the rare glimpses of him down there previously. He does my head in playing forward.
            Possibly although the two games that we have won Roughy, Minno & Cordy have all played.

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            • Cyberdoggie
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 2859

              #21
              Re: Match Committe- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
              A few times, he was in a great leading position and the ball was kicked to his ankles. Presented well.
              But how many times did he run underneath the ball!

              He's completely lost with his judgement of where to be in the contest.

              I think sometimes he's deliberately running to the front of the pack in the hope of grabbing an easier one with a high leap or if it falls short because he doesn't want to be in the pack getting sandwiched as he's just not marking them.

              When he's on a lead he seems to have no tricks to our position his opponent. He just run full bore at the footy hoping to beat them with pace but unless a draught horse is on him they are just right with him and push him under the ball when he leaps with a slight nudge.

              At full pace he can't balance himself, and in standing contested marking he's not strong enough and usually gets double/triple teamed. It's no wonder he's completely lost his confidence.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

                Originally posted by The Pie Man
                I can see Grant coming in for Wood - but Cordy? Maybe for Jones, other than that we'd look very top heavy.

                Might be worthwhile trying Grant down back - haven't minded the rare glimpses of him down there previously. He does my head in playing forward.
                Panos is the obvious choice for Jones.
                Grant does my head in too when up forward (does my head in most of the time actually )

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6932

                  #23
                  Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

                  Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                  Possibly although the two games that we have won Roughy, Minno & Cordy have all played.
                  I think the 44 guys who played for GWS or Melbourne had something to do with that as well.

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                  • whythelongface
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 4487

                    #24
                    Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

                    Originally posted by Shnookie
                    Panos is the obvious choice for Jones.
                    Grant does my head in too when up forward (does my head in most of the time actually )
                    What has panos done to warrant selection? Maybe he can come in to assist Jones, but not as a direct replscement. What we need to find is a foil for Jones so that he doesn't end up having two to three defenders on him week in week out.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66707

                      #25
                      Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

                      Originally posted by whythelongface
                      What has panos done to warrant selection? Maybe he can come in to assist Jones, but not as a direct replscement. What we need to find is a foil for Jones so that he doesn't end up having two to three defenders on him week in week out.
                      I pretty sure the coach is trying develop Cordy as that player. We keep saying he is a ruckman, but I don't think the coach sees him as just a ruckman.
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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15307

                        #26
                        Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

                        This weeks changes will be interesting. Friday night we appeared to have the balance right between big guys and run. I think this also had a lot to do with the midfield pressuring the Collingwood ball carrier which resulted in Cloke and Dawes having to work harder than normal to get into position.

                        Wood getting injured has really thrown a spanner in the works as he moves well and was able to be the 3rd defender.

                        Do we bring Grant and or Cordy back, but who is our third defender?

                        I really think we need to look at who North have playing forward. Roughead or Cordy may be required to play back for most of the game if Goldstien and McIntosh both play.
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44636

                          #27
                          Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

                          Originally posted by whythelongface
                          What has panos done to warrant selection? Maybe he can come in to assist Jones, but not as a direct replscement. What we need to find is a foil for Jones so that he doesn't end up having two to three defenders on him week in week out.
                          Panos is a mile off in both fitness and form. I don't see how he could assist at the moment.
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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6932

                            #28
                            Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Panos is a mile off in both fitness and form. I don't see how he could assist at the moment.
                            To borrow a gag from South Park Underpants Gnome ep...

                            Some fans have this plan to solve our forward line issues

                            Step 1- Play another young, raw tall forward
                            Step 2-
                            Step 3- Success

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                            • whythelongface
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4487

                              #29
                              Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              To borrow a gag from South Park Underpants Gnome ep...

                              Some fans have this plan to solve our forward line issues

                              Step 1- Play another young, raw tall forward
                              Step 2-
                              Step 3- Success
                              Exactly. That is why we need to persist with Jones and utilise Cordy in the forward line. There are no ready replacements. Panos is obviously not ready as per GVGjr's post.

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                              • The Bulldogs Bite
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11246

                                #30
                                Re: Match Committee- Round 6 vs North Melbourne

                                I disagree with the calls to 'save' Jones. There's a difference between sticking with a player who is making errors (Eg. Wood's disposal) as opposed to Jones who simply isn't doing anything right.

                                He continually runs under the ball, his ball use on Friday Night was nothing short of disgraceful by both hand and foot, he was out-muscled a few times and generally had no idea when and where to lead. In that first half, he continually kept running to the spot where Roughead already was, thus bringing his opponent (Brown) with him into the contest. This was really frustrating to watch.

                                Jones is clearly struggling mentally and is trying to overcompensate by trying too hard. He really needs to go back to Williamstown and do the basics of the game well, which he hasn't been doing. Such things as timing his leads, picking the ball up cleanly, disposing of it well and making good decisions.

                                Nobody is expecting him to take 10 marks and kick 2 goals, but for his own good, he needs a spell. He's been given 6 weeks and Friday Night's performance was the worst of all -- so it's not as though we are 'cutting' him too early.

                                Not sure why some people think that he can't develop and learn more in the VFL than the AFL in this scenario.
                                W00F!

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