Match Committee- Round 8 vs Gold Coast

[G-Mo77]

Re: Match Committee- Round 8 vs Gold Coast

What happened tp Pearce?

Yeah. I was expecting to hear him come into the side.

[Prince Imperial]

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Jones does not need to find form in the VFL if he passes the medical he,ll play , .

You're probably right about the second point but I disagree about the first. I thought we looked a lot better today without him and every game I've watched this year (which includes all the the pre-season ones but admittedly not the Adelaide game) he's really struggled.

[LostDoggy]

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You're probably right about the second point but I disagree about the first. I thought we looked a lot better today without Jones and every game I've watched this year (which includes all the the pre-season ones but admittedly not the Adelaide game) Jones has really struggled.

The game plan uses an oversize midfield with only two forwards , today we had Dickson and Gia as the forwards with Cordy and the others rotating through , 7 goals from our two forwards was a good return but that could only happen as we had control of the ball for long periods , Jones has suffered not from a lack of form but a lack of supply and a lack of support , Dickson was brought to the Club to give Jones that support he had a couple of games early to show him the standard required and then he went back to Willi to reinforce parts of his game , with Jones out he had to step up and provide a target and split his game 50/50 with offense and defense that fact that he scored 4 goals and made 8 tackles just shows his commitment to carry out his part of the game plan , when Jones comes back he and Dickson will be on the 50m arc and Gia on the 30m arc

Jones is probably the best contested mark at the Club , as Barry Hall said , its the most difficult thing to teach a young forward and Jones is a natural , he needs as much AFL game time as we can give him

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[Prince Imperial]

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The game plan uses an oversize midfield with only two forwards , today we had Dickson and Gia as the forwards with Cordy and the others rotating through , 7 goals from our two forwards was a good return but that could only happen as we had control of the ball for long periods , Jones has suffered not from a lack of form but a lack of supply and a lack of support , Dickson was brought to the Club to give Jones that support he had a couple of games early to show him the standard required and then he went back to Willi to reinforce parts of his game , with Jones out he had to step up and provide a target and split his game 50/50 with offense and defense that fact that he scored 4 goals and made 8 tackles just shows his commitment to carry out his part of the game plan , when Jones comes back he and Dickson will be on the 50m arc and Gia on the 30m arc

Jones is probably the best contested mark at the Club , as Barry Hall said , its the most difficult thing to teach a young forward and Jones is a natural , he needs as much AFL game time as we can give him

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Whilst I don't doubt that Jones has had a difficult task, his form has been poor. His disposal has been very ordinary and his defensive pressure hasn't been there (just 7 tackles in 6 games). He's not the only player we have to develop and it's important we build confidence in the rest of the team that must have been dented by playing with someone who is showing very little. Jones has some talent but it has to be more than clunking the occasional contested mark. I think he's at a stage where other parts of his game (leading and disposal) would develop more at a lower level.

[LostDoggy]

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Whilst I don't doubt that Jones has had a difficult task, his form has been poor. His disposal has been very ordinary and his defensive pressure hasn't been there (just 7 tackles in 6 games). He's not the only player we have to develop and it's important we build confidence in the rest of the team that must have been dented by playing with someone who is showing very little. Jones has some talent but it has to be more than clunking the occasional contested mark. I think he's at a stage where other parts of his game (leading and disposal) would develop more at a lower level.

I think too much has been made of Cordy's game and the other tall forwards that played yesterday.
Whilst Cordy had a very good second half and Roughead might of held his own in the ruck. Our tall forwards were almost non existent especially in the first half.
If Jones is out of form then it doesn't say much about the other 2/3 with Grant.
No tall forward we have ATM will prosper given they are in a development stage. We should really be playing 1 or 2 max not 4.
Jones has the most talent/natural forward and we have given him the biggest task. He has had a rest, we should play him.

Not sure what he would get at Williamstown competing with plenty of others for the same position in a team that's a bit of a rabble ATM.

[LostDoggy]

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In: Jones, DJ
Out: Roughead, Smith

Jones is our brightest key forward prospect at this point in time and given he pulls up fully fit should be given a chance against a less-than-solid GC defence. The conditions up in Darwin should really suit DJ so he comes in for Smith (unlucky to miss out). Roughead out because I couldn't see us playing in the humidity up there with 3 ruckmen and Ayce showed a bit against North. Howie to come back through Williamstown and Cooney to have another week off due to the 6 day break before Geelong.

[always right]

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Agree with Roughy out and keeping Cordy in due to Cordy's superior ground level skills. Have been pleased with Roughy's progress this year...leaving aside that dropped mark in the first quarter. At least he tried to take it in his hands but he can't afford to drop lace out passes like that.

I think Jones and Cooney will be rested again so DJ the only inclusion. McCartney to show faith in the blokes who produced on the weekend.

[Driver Leader]

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Generally the Darwin game is almost a wet game with the dew as the evening progresses, maybe worth looking at DJ for Roughead if available. Cooney should be rested in any case.

[Bornadog]

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This week is indigenous round, so may be nice to have our two boys up there, Jones and DJ

[Rocco Jones]

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This week is indigenous round, so may be nice to have our two boys up there, Jones and DJ

Definitely would be nice and I am into that sweet kind of stuff but obviously it has to be purely merit based.

I would play the pair either way. Jones for Roughy makes sense to me. As I said in the Liam thread, hopefully Ayce and Dickson will offer more support to Jones in different ways. Jones also gives us some fresh legs.

On wider team selection issues, I would have an eye on a two week plan. I am definitely not saying take our eye off the ball as despite our improvement in form, I still believe we have a tiny margin of error and can lose to anyone. It's just that consecutive 6 day breaks with Darwin in between is a crazy schedule.

I would really look at 'resting' fringe type players with niggles, which I think B-Mac believes in anyway. Willy play on Sunday as well, leaving a 5 day break. I would also look at not playing a couple of guys to freshen things up for our game vs Geelong.

[Ozza]

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Hopefully Cooney is back.

I guess it will be a couple of days before we know who has pulled up sore from the game and will be missing a week - there's usually one or two that don't make the trip to Darwin.

In a perfect world - Cooney is back in. And Jones.

I'm not against playing Smith again - given he'll get suitable conditions...I think his 10 minute performance is pretty irrelevant.

I don't think we can take 3 rucks to Darwin, would be leaving out Roughead. Grant had some good patches in the game - but he might be unlucky and miss.

In: Cooney; Jones
Out: Roughead, Smith or Grant.

If there's a sore body - happy to see Djerkerra back in.

[Axe Man]

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I spotted Liam Jones dashing into Etihad yesterday at considerable pace, attempting to avoid being soaked by the rain squall that blew through shortly before the match. Seemed to be moving OK to me, should be good to go this week.

[G-Mo77]

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I spotted Liam Jones dashing into Etihad yesterday at considerable pace, attempting to avoid being soaked by the rain squall that blew through shortly before the match. Seemed to be moving OK to me, should be good to go this week.

He walked past me pretty wet so it must have been shortly after you saw him.

[Hotdog60]

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It's a pity Skinner isn't having a better time at Willy, taking him to Darwin might have been an advantage, meaning didn't he play a bit of footy in the darwin league.

[AndrewP6]

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It's a pity Skinner isn't having a better time at Willy, taking him to Darwin might have been an advantage, meaning didn't he play a bit of footy in the darwin league.

How would it be an advantage to us?