Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

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  • stefoid
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2009
    • 1846

    #16
    Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

    This year is about learning to get better, so maybe Sherman stays in unless he is consistently not following orders.

    I say maybe - depends if there is anyone playing well enough to step up in his place? Panos I guess.

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    • Rocco Jones
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jun 2008
      • 6984

      #17
      Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

      We seemed like we were down a small defender last night, not much we could do considering our forced outs and the depth of their small forwards.

      Annoying for Howie that Willy have a bye this week. I liked his first game back for Willy last week.

      A few have Roughy as an out and I was very frustrated by his kicking for goal but we must remember he showed some promising signs. IMO he was reading the flight of the ball really well and got in good position. At B-Mac said on 360, Ayce, Roughy and Jones will be nudging just in front/behind eachother. Good for development/motivaion, Ayce just out next week.

      Not nice dropping a guy after just one game but if anyone can sell it as a positive learning experience, it's the bloke we have in charge.

      OUT: Skinner, Pearce, Vez
      IN: Grant, Addison, Howard/Wood

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      • Bulldog Joe
        Premiership Moderator
        • Jul 2009
        • 5628

        #18
        Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

        Ins for me are Addison, Grant and Cordy
        Outs Skinner, Pearce (both had a taste and just need to work on their game) Vesz (just prefer the hardness of Dylan)

        I think the small ground actually helps play the big guys.

        With Roughy, Jones and Cordy all starting to take contested marks we can be dangerous and start to stretch defences, but also makes the work of our smalls in Dickson, Gia, Higgins, Dahl and Sherman important.

        If Wood is right to go he would certainly be under consideration, but maybe a run at Willi and have him ready after the bye.
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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11602

          #19
          Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Ok, Sheman was poor tonight, but across the season he has to stay in, doesn't he?
          Was just as poor last week, but simply because we have no other line-breakers available for selection he stays in. And I will be amazed if he has any impact whatsoever on the tight confines of the SCG next week. He must be thanking his lucky stars that Cooney can't break the lines like he used to and Tutt can't get on the park.
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          • Bulldog4life
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 9607

            #20
            Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

            Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
            Ins for me are Addison, Grant and Cordy
            Outs Skinner, Pearce (both had a taste and just need to work on their game) Vesz (just prefer the hardness of Dylan)

            I think the small ground actually helps play the big guys.

            With Roughy, Jones and Cordy all starting to take contested marks we can be dangerous and start to stretch defences, but also makes the work of our smalls in Dickson, Gia, Higgins, Dahl and Sherman important.

            If Wood is right to go he would certainly be under consideration, but maybe a run at Willi and have him ready after the bye.
            Agree with your ins and outs BJ and your reasoning too. We have won games with all 4 ....Jones, Minson, Cordy & Roughy in our team .....and there will be games we lose no doubt with them as well. As time goes on and those players improve we hopefully can make this combination one of our strengths to be feared by other teams.

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            • always right
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 4189

              #21
              Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Ok, Sheman was poor tonight, but across the season he has to stay in, doesn't he?
              You're probably right but he was very disappointing last night. We do need his pace though. At one stage last night a Geelong player was charging towards goal and the three blokes chasing him were Libba, Gia and Will. My heart sank.

              Rather than dropping Sherman, perhaps Vez would be preferred. Have liked his improvement his year but his opponent generally manages to get separation a little too easily due to his lack of pace.
              I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                I prefer Vez to Addison. Addison might be harder but Vez makes better decisions and has better disposal.
                I suppose it depends on the match ups.
                Our backline isn't really the problem as well.

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                • LongWait
                  WOOF Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 936

                  #23
                  Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                  Originally posted by Chops
                  I prefer Vez to Addison. Addison might be harder but Vez makes better decisions and has better disposal.
                  I suppose it depends on the match ups.
                  Our backline isn't really the problem as well.
                  The backline's performance has been under-rated. They've done a magnificent job considering the number of injuries they've had to cover for.

                  Vez has a slight hamstring strain it seems - so probably won't get up for next week anyway and with the bye coming up it might be a good time to give him a rest.

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                  • Desipura
                    WOOF Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4344

                    #24
                    Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                    Originally posted by Chops
                    I prefer Vez to Addison. Addison might be harder but Vez makes better decisions and has better disposal.
                    I suppose it depends on the match ups.
                    Our backline isn't really the problem as well.
                    On ability I would have Vez over Addison, on recent form, I would have Addison in the side way ahead of Vez.
                    If Vez does not build his tank, he will have a very short career.
                    I think whilst our backline have done a good job given the number of injuries we have had, we were in need of a small backman hence why Motlop snagged 3.

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10244

                      #25
                      Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                      Originally posted by Desipura
                      On ability I would have Vez over Addison, on recent form, I would have Addison in the side way ahead of Vez.
                      If Vez does not build his tank, he will have a very short career.
                      I think whilst our backline have done a good job given the number of injuries we have had, we were in need of a small backman hence why Motlop snagged 3.
                      Motlop's goals came from his superior reading of the play and having a significant speed advantage over his opponent (Pearce/Vez). Do you think Addison could have done anything to stop that?
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 22150

                        #26
                        Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        Motlop's goals came from his superior reading of the play and having a significant speed advantage over his opponent (Pearce/Vez). Do you think Addison could have done anything to stop that?
                        Interesting listening to ABC post match, Harry Taylor was asked about our one on one plan throughout different stages of the game, and he said that as soon as we did that they knew if able to get the ball on the break and through the corridore Motlop would free up and score.

                        He also said he wasn't surprised we're learning to contest on a one on one basis to start off with, due to McCartney's philosophy on contested ball.


                        Ins - Cordy, Grant and Addison
                        Outs - Veszpremi, Skinner, Pearce

                        Going tall up forward this week could be a good move, on the smaller ground.

                        Pearce has had a taste, and hopefully has some hunger to return.

                        With respect to Wood and Howard, I'd let them come back against Port in round 12.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15481

                          #27
                          Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                          Originally posted by jeemak

                          He also said he wasn't surprised we're learning to contest on a one on one basis to start off with, due to McCartney's philosophy on contested ball.
                          .

                          With respect to Wood and Howard, I'd let them come back against Port in round 12.
                          It has been no secret that is what McCartney is working on.

                          With Wood I think he needs to come back through the VFL. He isn't a natural football, I think he will be very rusty upon his return and the VFL is the best place for that.
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • Greystache
                            WOOF Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            #28
                            Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            Motlop's goals came from his superior reading of the play and having a significant speed advantage over his opponent (Pearce/Vez). Do you think Addison could have done anything to stop that?
                            His goals came because he was able to get goal side of his opponent, get the ball over the back, and then use his pace to kick goals. He should never have been allowed the space so many times, relying on your pace to catch a player with nothing between him and the goal line would be a bad tactic even for Usain Bolt.

                            I don't want to pot a first gamer but Pearce looked like he'd never played a single game of football in defence, he positioning in comparison to his opponent was beyond poor.
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                            • Greystache
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775

                              #29
                              Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                              Out- Vezspremi, Pearce, Skinner
                              In- Addison, Grant, DJ

                              I would drop Vez if if he's not injured, his kicking skills are a bonus but he can't defend, he just has no idea how to use his body. He's got to be a forward with occasional runs through the middle, which might be hard with Gia and Higgins in front of him.

                              Pearce looked a fair way off it for now.

                              Skinner showed a bit and has an ability to do something we struggle with, kick goals, but we're a first quarter hamstring away from being exposed as a sub.
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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10244

                                #30
                                Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                                Originally posted by Greystache
                                His goals came because he was able to get goal side of his opponent, get the ball over the back, and then use his pace to kick goals. He should never have been allowed the space so many times, relying on your pace to catch a player with nothing between him and the goal line would be a bad tactic even for Usain Bolt.

                                I don't want to pot a first gamer but Pearce looked like he'd never played a single game of football in defence, he positioning in comparison to his opponent was beyond poor.
                                Yeah fair point, Pearce was exposed for pace but really allowed himself to be with the latitude he was giving and ballwatching at contests; still rate Motlop though, he looked dangerous any time he got near it.
                                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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