Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

    It is funny. As a forward Jones is miles ahead of Cordy and Roughead ATM.

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    • Bulldog4life
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 9607

      Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

      Originally posted by Chops
      It is funny. As a forward Jones is miles ahead of Cordy and Roughead ATM.
      That is your opinion chopper.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
        That is your opinion chopper.
        Yes lifey my Opinion supported facts like effective games as a forward.

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        • Ozza
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Mar 2008
          • 6402

          Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

          Originally posted by Chops
          Yes lifey my Opinion supported facts like effective games as a forward.
          Jones is lightyears ahead of Rough and Cordy at the moment. Very frustrating that we didn't put a side in that had a chance of winning in Sydney. Picking 3 very lumbering talls in the wet was a howler.

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          • Hot_Doggies
            Rookie List
            • May 2009
            • 396

            Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

            Originally posted by Ozza
            Jones is lightyears ahead of Rough and Cordy at the moment. Very frustrating that we didn't put a side in that had a chance of winning in Sydney. Picking 3 very lumbering talls in the wet was a howler.
            I agree, Jones should play majority of remaining games. So should Cordy and Roughead.

            Minson going down with a 4wk hammy later in the season wouldn't be a 'bad' thing.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66738

              Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

              Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
              Minson going down with a 4wk hammy later in the season wouldn't be a 'bad' thing.
              Is this a joke? Very poor post. Third in the AFL for effective hitouts, having a great season.
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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6402

                Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                [QUOTE=Hot_Doggies;272895]I agree, Jones should play majority of remaining games. So should Cordy and Roughead.

                Minson going down with a 4wk hammy later in the season wouldn't be a 'bad' thing.[/QUOTE]

                Can't say I agree with this part. Minson was terrific yesterday and has had a good season. Cordy and Roughead will just have to continue to improve and develop behind Minson - hopefully at some point in the next couple of years - Roughead will go past Minson - because it seems unlikely Cordy will ever be a ruckman.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44653

                  Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                  Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                  I agree, Jones should play majority of remaining games. So should Cordy and Roughead.

                  Minson going down with a 4wk hammy later in the season wouldn't be a 'bad' thing.
                  I've never thought a player being injured as a good thing. Very surprised to read that by one of our supporters.
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                  • Hot_Doggies
                    Rookie List
                    • May 2009
                    • 396

                    Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                    I don't think it would hurt to let Cordy and Roughead carry the ruck for a few weeks.

                    Although Minson has improved, he is a battler at best.

                    If we could get a 2nd rounder for him, i would take it.

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10143

                      Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                      Originally posted by Ozza
                      Jones is lightyears ahead of Rough and Cordy at the moment. Very frustrating that we didn't put a side in that had a chance of winning in Sydney. Picking 3 very lumbering talls in the wet was a howler.
                      Bad match committee decisions aside, blaming anything else other than a total lack of composure through the midfield and unwillingness to spread (which isn't a new thing this year btw) is a total oversight.

                      I get that McCartney is only 10 games into a very long term vision, but he needs to implement some light changes to ensure we don't serve up that tripe again on the odd chance that there's a side out there that are better in a contested situation than us - maybe someone, anyone, not "cracking in" and acting as a sweeper so we don't get burnt on the spread for goals like 5 times every week?
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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6402

                        Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        Bad match committee decisions aside, blaming anything else other than a total lack of composure through the midfield and unwillingness to spread (which isn't a new thing this year btw) is a total oversight.

                        I get that McCartney is only 10 games into a very long term vision, but he needs to implement some light changes to ensure we don't serve up that tripe again on the odd chance that there's a side out there that are better in a contested situation than us - maybe someone, anyone, not "cracking in" and acting as a sweeper so we don't get burnt on the spread for goals like 5 times every week?
                        Obviously we lost due to far more than the selection. But I never felt like we had a chance by going in with that side. I understand McCartney is looking long term - and most of what he has done this year has been terrific. But you're still entitled to select a team that has a remote hope of winning - a team that has some balance in it - and god forbid some pace.

                        We picked every slow footballer we have at the club on Sunday. And we went in with what I'm guessing was one of our tallest teams for the year to play against a quick side in the wet.

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                        • Ghost Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                          Originally posted by Ozza
                          Jones is lightyears ahead of Rough and Cordy at the moment. Very frustrating that we didn't put a side in that had a chance of winning in Sydney. Picking 3 very lumbering talls in the wet was a howler.
                          So true. McCartney said post game that we didn't adapt to the conditions. The same could be said for the selection committee. I'm a bit angry about this loss. People at work have been giving it to me all day. I hate any team having its foot on the throat of our club. I really hope we bounce back.
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                          • The Bulldogs Bite
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 11246

                            Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                            I don't think Jones is light years ahead of Cordy and Roughead.

                            Jones has had 1 decent game for the year and he's still extremely raw, lacking some basic fundamental smarts about the game and, of course, the ability to finish.

                            I actually think Roughead is the most advanced, but he's the worst kick for goal in the side at the moment. He hasn't got a horrible action -- he just doesn't get near 'em.
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                            • Ozza
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6402

                              Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                              I don't think Jones is light years ahead of Cordy and Roughead.

                              Jones has had 1 decent game for the year and he's still extremely raw, lacking some basic fundamental smarts about the game and, of course, the ability to finish.

                              I actually think Roughead is the most advanced, but he's the worst kick for goal in the side at the moment. He hasn't got a horrible action -- he just doesn't get near 'em.
                              Jones was 5th in the AFL for contested marks last year. This year every time he's played - he's had the oppositions best defender and has been double or triple teamed in the air - and most of the time he has at least halved the contest. Against Geelong, he may not have finished off his work - but he took some great marks across half forward with terrific attack on the ball in the air.

                              I don't think Cordy or Roughead have had as much impact in a game at any stage - as Jones did last week alone. If Jones was dropped so we could go in with a smaller forward set up - I could understand it. But playing two 200+Cms guys was very surprising.

                              At this point - personally - I think Rough is the least developed of the 3. He doesn't read the play well - and is regularly 30-40m from where he should be. His attack on the ball is pretty disappointing at this stage as well - occasionally he attacks it ok - but there's not a consistent strong leap at the footy from him at this stage.

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6932

                                Re: Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

                                Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                                I don't think it would hurt to let Cordy and Roughead carry the ruck for a few weeks.

                                Although Minson has improved, he is a battler at best.

                                If we could get a 2nd rounder for him, i would take it.
                                I have been a strong critic of Minson's in the past but this reeks of you having his cards marked and just refusing to change your mind (or having a very different opinion of what a quality ruckman is to mine).

                                From Round 3 on he has been very difficult to beat. He has been in the handful of top ruckman in the league this year and that's coming from a guy who would have literally traded him for nothing if a club would have taken over his contract.

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