Match Committee- Round 10 vs Sydney

[Bulldog Joe]

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I have been a strong critic of Minson's in the past but this reeks of you having his cards marked and just refusing to change your mind (or having a very different opinion of what a quality ruckman is to mine).

From Round 3 on he has been very difficult to beat. He has been in the handful of top ruckman in the league this year and that's coming from a guy who would have literally traded him for nothing if a club would have taken over his contract.

Good post Rocco.

I have avoided comment on Will this year. I was howled down at the end of 2010 when there was talk of trading him and I suggested that the club would be better served to trade Hudson.

Will is showing that he is a first ruck and was actually pushed aside because of the arrival of Hudson. Will was always asked to be the forward because Hudson could not do that at all.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Jones was 5th in the AFL for contested marks last year. This year every time he's played - he's had the oppositions best defender and has been double or triple teamed in the air - and most of the time he has at least halved the contest. Against Geelong, he may not have finished off his work - but he took some great marks across half forward with terrific attack on the ball in the air.

I don't think Cordy or Roughead have had as much impact in a game at any stage - as Jones did last week alone. If Jones was dropped so we could go in with a smaller forward set up - I could understand it. But playing two 200+Cms guys was very surprising.

As harsh as it is, who cares what Jones did last year? He's been awful all pre-season and in all H&A games minus v Geelong. I wouldn't say he's halved the contest either. In fact, I can't recall him really even drawing a contest over the duration of a match let alone win one aside from the Geelong game.

I think a lot of people give Jones more credit than he deserves. I've watched him closely this year and his footy smarts (or lack of) are poor.

I think Roughead's had a solid season. He's shown an ability all over the ground. If he was kicking straight, I guarantee posters would be praising him because he's had quite a few shots on goal this year.

Jones was pretty good v Geelong, but Roughead could have been the match winner. He missed 4? in a row.

I do agree last week's decision to play 3 talls in those conditions was absolutely mind boggling though. Really poor from the coaching staff.

[Hotdog60]

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I don't think it would hurt to let Cordy and Roughead carry the ruck for a few weeks.

Although Minson has improved, he is a battler at best.

If we could get a 2nd rounder for him, i would take it.

MInson would have to be one of the better ruckmen going around in the AFL this year and I wouldn't want to loose him. Being the main man this year has been like a tonic and the big guys always are late developers so Will is just hitting his prime.

If Roughead is good enough to take the number one mantle let him prove it.

[LongWait]

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As harsh as it is, who cares what Jones did last year? He's been awful all pre-season and in all H&A games minus v Geelong. I wouldn't say he's halved the contest either. In fact, I can't recall him really even drawing a contest over the duration of a match let alone win one aside from the Geelong game.

I think a lot of people give Jones more credit than he deserves. I've watched him closely this year and his footy smarts (or lack of) are poor.

I think Roughead's had a solid season. He's shown an ability all over the ground. If he was kicking straight, I guarantee posters would be praising him because he's had quite a few shots on goal this year.

Jones was pretty good v Geelong, but Roughead could have been the match winner. He missed 4? in a row.

I do agree last week's decision to play 3 talls in those conditions was absolutely mind boggling though. Really poor from the coaching staff.

Which of our talls was poor yesterday? Did we get less from Will, Roughy or Ayce than we did from any of a dozen or more other players?

I don't think being too 'tall' was our problem yesterday. Sydney played two ruckmen plus Reid up forward, who played the same role that Cordy did for us, and they had LRT up forward as well. Was playing three or four talls a mistake for Sydney?

[azabob]

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Which of our talls was poor yesterday? Did we get less from Will, Roughy or Ayce than we did from any of a dozen or more other players?

I don't think being too 'tall' was our problem yesterday. Sydney played two ruckmen plus Reid up forward, who played the same role that Cordy did for us, and they had LRT up forward as well. Was playing three or four talls a mistake for Sydney?

Agree, I said yesterday we didn't go too tall, if anything Sydney went in taller. Our mid size players let us down yesterday.

[Desipura]

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Good post Rocco.

I have avoided comment on Will this year. I was howled down at the end of 2010 when there was talk of trading him and I suggested that the club would be better served to trade Hudson.

Will is showing that he is a first ruck and was actually pushed aside because of the arrival of Hudson. Will was always asked to be the forward because Hudson could not do that at all.

Oh cmon, a large percentage of your posts have reminded us of how you have rated Will all along.
He has been consistent this year, has not totally dominated a game to the point that he was BOG, however he is playing within his limitations.
He will never be our saviour, however he is the best ruckman we currently have on our list.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Oh cmon, a large percentage of your posts have reminded us of how you have rated Will all along.
He has been consistent this year, has not totally dominated a game to the point that he was BOG, however he is playing within his limitations.
He will never be our saviour, however he is the best ruckman we currently have on our list.

Desi

I have in previous years shown my support for Will, but I cannot recall making a single post this season apart from the one in this thread.

[GVGjr]

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Oh cmon, a large percentage of your posts have reminded us of how you have rated Will all along.

Fact or fiction?