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  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    Matty Robbins battle with depression

    From the Herald-Sun. Talks about the multiple concussions he sustained, and the correlation to the depression he suffered. Played his last two years with the condition, didn't tell anyone at the club.

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  • The Bulldogs Bite
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11245

    #2
    Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

    Thanks for posting.

    It's certainly an issue that needs to be investigated more closely.

    As for Robbins, I am glad to hear he's back on track. He was a really nice guy, and I admired the way he played. He became one of my favourite players and undoubtedly was extremely courageous.
    W00F!

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    • Throughandthrough
      Coaching Staff
      • Nov 2007
      • 3201

      #3
      Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

      Depression is (sadly) far more common amongst AFL players then the public knows

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #4
        Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

        Originally posted by Throughandthrough
        Depression is (sadly) far more common amongst AFL players then the public knows
        Scotty West.
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • KT31
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jul 2008
          • 5454

          #5
          Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

          Originally posted by Throughandthrough
          Depression is (sadly) far more common amongst AFL players then the public knows
          In general more prevalant in society than known.
          Last edited by KT31; 07-06-2012, 11:41 AM.
          It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9876

            #6
            Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

            Originally posted by Throughandthrough
            Depression is (sadly) far more common amongst AFL players then the public knows
            It's more common anywhere than the anyone knows. It's not something you want everyone to know about which is half the battle.

            It takes a brave person to stand up and say they are suffering from depression.

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            • SonofScray
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 4234

              #7
              Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

              The accepted stat is that 1 in 5 Australians will experience mental health issues at some stage in their lives. I think it is actually more, given what we know about some demographics' willingness to seek support and subsequently have their issues diagnosed. There is still a lot of stigma around mental health though which is a real shame. It shouldn't take a brave person to seek help and get the right supports in place.

              The data coming out of the USA re: head injuries in athletes and depression/suicide is worrying. A few high profile cases recently in the NHL and NFL. The NHL is going through a major change in its culture along the lines of AFL's 'the head is sacrosanct (for better or wise, I might add).'
              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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              • Rocco Jones
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jun 2008
                • 6932

                #8
                Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

                Originally posted by SonofScray
                The accepted stat is that 1 in 5 Australians will experience mental health issues at some stage in their lives. I think it is actually more, given what we know about some demographics' willingness to seek support and subsequently have their issues diagnosed. There is still a lot of stigma around mental health though which is a real shame. It shouldn't take a brave person to seek help and get the right supports in place.
                Great post, totally agree.

                Originally posted by SonofScray
                The data coming out of the USA re: head injuries in athletes and depression/suicide is worrying. A few high profile cases recently in the NHL and NFL. The NHL is going through a major change in its culture along the lines of AFL's 'the head is sacrosanct (for better or wise, I might add).'
                This is a tough one. I often get annoyed at how the tribunal deals with any contact to the head, thinking they are taking away a part of the game/being too harsh on accidental and incidental circumstances but is the risk worth the 'entertainment' or whatever you want to call it. I think I pretty much support the AFL tribunal's stance when it comes to head contact.

                The area I am not so sure on is free kicks for 'high' contacts during tackles. I get where they are coming from but the current situation sees players who are tackled 'trying' to get high contact. Say what you will about modern footy, players are very hard. Players are very willing to take contact to the head if it results in a free kick to their team.

                I wonder what would happen if a player suffered a major injury while ducking/slipper movement Shuey and the Eagles do.

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #9
                  Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

                  Originally posted by SonofScray
                  The accepted stat is that 1 in 5 Australians will experience mental health issues at some stage in their lives. I think it is actually more, given what we know about some demographics' willingness to seek support and subsequently have their issues diagnosed. There is still a lot of stigma around mental health though which is a real shame. It shouldn't take a brave person to seek help and get the right supports in place.

                  The data coming out of the USA re: head injuries in athletes and depression/suicide is worrying. A few high profile cases recently in the NHL and NFL. The NHL is going through a major change in its culture along the lines of AFL's 'the head is sacrosanct (for better or wise, I might add).'
                  Not too sure about that one SOS. Takes a brave person to open up about many things.
                  Anyhow, has anyone seen Matty at functions and the like?
                  Maybe a large part of it has to do with leading such a relatively mundane existance outside of AFL.
                  You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                  • SonofScray
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 4234

                    #10
                    Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    Not too sure about that one SOS. Takes a brave person to open up about many things.
                    Anyhow, has anyone seen Matty at functions and the like?
                    Maybe a large part of it has to do with leading such a relatively mundane existance outside of AFL.
                    Its does, you are right. What I am saying is that given the statistics and the actual nature of mental health, it shouldn't be as big a deal. Stigma makes it so.
                    Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                    • Maddog37
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3132

                      #11
                      Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

                      Part of the problem is that you tend to blame yourself and do not want to burden anyone with your emotional baggage. It can be a trap as the pressure builds and you mask it with other things like sport or booze but when your wheels stop spinning the problem is still there. It can take a long time to work through and you need to be vigilant you do not slip back when stressed etc.

                      Certainly talking to someone is the very best thing you can do.

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9876

                        #12
                        Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

                        Originally posted by Maddog37
                        Part of the problem is that you tend to blame yourself and do not want to burden anyone with your emotional baggage. It can be a trap as the pressure builds and you mask it with other things like sport or booze but when your wheels stop spinning the problem is still there. It can take a long time to work through and you need to be vigilant you do not slip back when stressed etc.

                        Certainly talking to someone is the very best thing you can do.
                        Great post.

                        Being a man also comes I to play. Men are suppose to be strong not just physically but emotionally and mentally. It seems like a sign of weakness that you don't want to show to anyone.

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                        • Ghost Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          #13
                          Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

                          Originally posted by SonofScray
                          Its does, you are right. What I am saying is that given the statistics and the actual nature of mental health, it shouldn't be as big a deal. Stigma makes it so.
                          Right. I get what you are saying. It's really hard to hear of champs like Matty and in the past, Scotty West dropping their chins post career. I hope the fold can help them move on. In West's, case it's great to see him still involved in the game.
                          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14946

                            #14
                            Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

                            Good on Matty in coming out with this.
                            The more high-profile people who come out, the less stigmatised it becomes and people will feel more comfortable in seeking help
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: Matty Robbins battle with depression

                              This is a subject close to my heart as I've suffered from depression myself. I had good family and friends, good job, financial security, bought my own property when I was 22. These are all things that in most cases would make someone satisfied and content with their life. The other side of the coin however is vastly different. You lose interest in things that have been a large part in your life and you can't explain why. You lack motivation and feel like there is no point to life. Fortunately I sought help and worked on strategies to deal with the problem. I still have bad days but am no longer diagnosed as depressed.

                              People assume that AFL players have it all and live glamorous lives, but one can't help but think that the reality is vastly different and depressive illnesses are much more prevalent than people realise.

                              Good on Matty Robbins for speaking about his personal experiences.

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