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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Trading...Tanking

    Everitt, 1st rounder, 3rd rounder = Vez, Djek and Sherman = all not in the side. Why play the trading game?
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • Bulldog4life
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 9607

    #2
    Re: Trading...

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    Everitt, 1st rounder, 3rd rounder = Vez, Djek and Sherman = all not in the side. Why play the trading game?
    Two of those have what we are lacking too.... leg speed.

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    • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 8971

      #3
      Re: Trading...

      Originally posted by Bulldog4life
      Two of those have what we are lacking too.... leg speed.
      Yes, but it seems that the midfield ethos favoured by our coaching departement favours having 8 midfielders in the team who can swarm and crack in at every ground contest, so they can win the contested ball and shovel it out quickly to one of several unattended opposition midfielders who have sat outside the contest.
      Sadly Vez and Sherman aren't that type. outside run and carry is out of fashion at our club.
      Sorry for being so cynical, but I am fast losing my patience with our style of play, and am just not able to see how such an unbalanced gameplan - that seems to be based around attacking the contest to the exclusion of everything else - is a sound tactical plan.
      Maybe I just can't see the big picture.

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      • ReLoad
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2009
        • 1465

        #4
        Re: Trading...

        I don't think I've seen a slower side than what we fielded today.

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        • Bulldog4life
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 9607

          #5
          Re: Trading...

          Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
          Yes, but it seems that the midfield ethos favoured by our coaching departement favours having 8 midfielders in the team who can swarm and crack in at every ground contest, so they can win the contested ball and shovel it out quickly to one of several unattended opposition midfielders who have sat outside the contest.
          Sadly Vez and Sherman aren't that type. outside run and carry is out of fashion at our club.
          Sorry for being so cynical, but I am fast losing my patience with our style of play, and am just not able to see how such an unbalanced gameplan - that seems to be based around attacking the contest to the exclusion of everything else - is a sound tactical plan.
          Maybe I just can't see the big picture.
          Unfortunately I'm starting to think the same way. Hopefully we don't draft more plodders.

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          • ReLoad
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2009
            • 1465

            #6
            Re: Trading...

            Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
            Yes, but it seems that the midfield ethos favoured by our coaching departement favours having 8 midfielders in the team who can swarm and crack in at every ground contest, so they can win the contested ball and shovel it out quickly to one of several unattended opposition midfielders who have sat outside the contest.
            Sadly Vez and Sherman aren't that type. outside run and carry is out of fashion at our club.
            Sorry for being so cynical, but I am fast losing my patience with our style of play, and am just not able to see how such an unbalanced gameplan - that seems to be based around attacking the contest to the exclusion of everything else - is a sound tactical plan.
            Maybe I just can't see the big picture.
            I think the thing is, and it took the cats 18 months, they learnt contested footy first, then added/drilled/trained/pre seasoned for leg speed. the fact they had players capable of doing both; bartel, selwood, kelly, ablett etc all of course meant that it worked, us on the other hand.........

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              #7
              Re: Trading...

              I get the bang and crash, but we need run spread , link play. Need to be smarter going into the 50. Got a few talls but no point in bombing it in!

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44718

                #8
                Re: Trading...

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                Everitt, 1st rounder, 3rd rounder = Vez, Djek and Sherman = all not in the side. Why play the trading game?
                Other clubs have done OK with it so it's certainly not the problem. Rocket had a different approach that didn't nail it for us but hopefully Brendan McCartney can make the right decisions.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • KT31
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 5454

                  #9
                  Re: Trading...

                  Originally posted by ReLoad
                  I think the thing is, and it took the cats 18 months, they learnt contested footy first, then added/drilled/trained/pre seasoned for leg speed. the fact they had players capable of doing both; bartel, selwood, kelly, ablett etc all of course meant that it worked, us on the other hand.........
                  Agree, even Swabb made sure the Hawks could play defence before they learnt to attack and had a tilt at a flag.
                  Admittedly they did have Buddy.
                  It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                  • azabob
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15335

                    #10
                    Re: Trading...

                    Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                    Sadly Vez and Sherman aren't that type. outside run and carry is out of fashion at our club.
                    Sorry for being so cynical, but I am fast losing my patience with our style of play, and am just not able to see how such an unbalanced gameplan - that seems to be based around attacking the contest to the exclusion of everything else - is a sound tactical plan.
                    Maybe I just can't see the big picture.
                    I recall when Eade first took over we were full of attack and very light on for defence and hunger for the physical contested ball.

                    This time around McCartney is addressing the contested ball first.

                    I guess you can't implement everything at once.
                    More of an In Bruges guy?

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                    • Bumper Bulldogs
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2981

                      #11
                      Re: Trading...

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      I guess you can't implement everything at once.
                      Why not its called a game plan,
                      BB.

                      Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                      • Missing-Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3102

                        #12
                        Re: Trading...

                        Time to tank!

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44718

                          #13
                          Re: Trading...

                          Originally posted by Rance Fan
                          Time to tank!
                          Agree the tank is calling get on board. The lower the better in a great draft.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            #14
                            Re: Trading...

                            That was the only positive .
                            Think we're going to finish 14 or 15

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                            • Max469
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 568

                              #15
                              Re: Trading...

                              someone to put through the middle of the big sticks would most definitely help.

                              too many weeks - too many points.

                              other clubs make it look so easy.
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