Trading...Tanking

[Bulldog4life]

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Time to tank!

Not sure we'll need to tank to lose.

[bulldogtragic]

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Not sure we'll need to tank to lose.

Sorry and sad, but true.

[GVGjr]

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Time to tank!

No thanks. We can't draw a decent crowd even when we are trying and I'll be stuffed if I will buy memberships if we aren't fair dinkum.

How does a coach ask players to dig deep when it counts if he has been manipulating results?

[Missing Dog]

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We have To Draft Outside Mids Who Can kick Must Draft Them.
Still Wished We drafted Crozier Instead of Smith i think we have stuffed up there

[Bornadog]

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Time to tank!

WE don't need to tank, we already are at that level.

[Doc26]

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No thanks. We can't draw a decent crowd even when we are trying and I'll be stuffed if I will buy memberships if we aren't fair dinkum.

How does a coach ask players to dig deep when it counts if he has been manipulating results?

Agree. Tanking is just a poor excuse for lacking enough smarts in recruitment, development and list management. Let's get our own backyard corrected first and then see how we fair.

[GVGjr]

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Agree. Tanking is just a poor excuse for lacking enough smarts in recruitment, development and list management. Let's get our own backyard corrected first and then see how we fair.

The suggestions that some fans make along the lines of tanking games is most often done out of frustration after a bad loss which is understandable I suppose especially if the season is just slipping away but those who legitimately believe we should tank games either haven't thought it through or are prone to take short cuts in life.

Tanking is cheating nothing more and nothing less. It's the equivalent of taking drugs to gain an edge on the opposition in sports, cheating on your employer to gain a financial benefit that you don't deserve or haven't earned and in the case of the team I follow it's simply misleading the supporters who put their hard earned forward each season so it's effectively lying to your loved ones.
No one should be comfortable doing that.

I just don't see why people suggest it so much unless they want to take the short cuts in life.

We simply don't need to go down that road. All the points you have raised will benefit the club much more than sneaking up a few positions in the draft order.

[Remi Moses]

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Let's be honest tanking can be defined in different ways.
Point 1 players don't "Tank" we all know that.
Are we tanking if we play younger players?
Are we tanking if we put injured players away for the season?
Gotta say I'd be annoyed if we have players who need post season operations and don't have them because we're in a battle for 13th!
Would we rather 10th or 14th 15th? Personally I'd rather 14 or 15.

[LostDoggy]

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I'm going to attempt a glass half full attitude and say that I think this year the emphasis is squarely on drilling the players on contested footy as the foundation of any game plan. I hope that this will be followed by developing the other ingredients of that game plan I.e. spread and run and carry. The season in some ways has exceeded my expectations as I thought we would be smacked more than we have been. We rolled the dice yesterday with our forward set up and it didn't work, in fact unlike Port, Brisbane exploited it.

I can't see how we can play so many inside mids next year. Also, as much as I admire their guts and hardness, I'd say Crossy and Addison probably should depart.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Let's be honest tanking can be defined in different ways.
Point 1 players don't "Tank" we all know that.
Are we tanking if we play younger players?
Are we tanking if we put injured players away for the season?
Gotta say I'd be annoyed if we have players who need post season operations and don't have them because we're in a battle for 13th!
Would we rather 10th or 14th 15th? Personally I'd rather 14 or 15.

These are my sentiments on the matter exactly.

[The Underdog]

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WE don't need to tank, we already are at that level.

This. And given Melbourne are still to play GWS twice and GC once, Port have a couple of easy ones and that we probably won't start favourites in any of our remaining fixtures we may still end up lower. It's tough to see us winning more than one or two more on paper.

Please, please pick up some mids with speed and footskills in the first round.

[GVGjr]

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Would we rather 10th or 14th 15th? Personally I'd rather 14 or 15.

That's not the way to look at it. It's about teaching the players to place a premium on winning and that winning should be the aim every time you put on the club colors. As supporters we should be demanding it.
You are effectively asking the coach and players to pick and choose when they will or won't try and that cannot serve the club well over the longer term. Establishing a culture that sets high standards will serve the club far better than a bump in the draft order of a few positions.

[GVGjr]

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I'm going to attempt a glass half full attitude and say that I think this year the emphasis is squarely on drilling the players on contested footy as the foundation of any game plan. I hope that this will be followed by developing the other ingredients of that game plan I.e. spread and run and carry. The season in some ways has exceeded my expectations as I thought we would be smacked more than we have been. We rolled the dice yesterday with our forward set up and it didn't work, in fact unlike Port, Brisbane exploited it.

I can't see how we can play so many inside mids next year. Also, as much as I admire their guts and hardness, I'd say Crossy and Addison probably should depart.

I like a lot of what you have posted. This year is about the coach teaching the players the type of football that is required to take the club forward and we must give the coach every chance to do that this year.

Brisbane were just too athletic for us yesterday plus their skill level, particularly their goal kicking, was superior. Hopefully we can put in far better performances for the balance of the season.

[chef]

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That's not the way to look at it. It's about teaching the players to place a premium on winning and that winning should be the aim every time you put on the club colors. As supporters we should be demanding it.
You are effectively asking the coach and players to pick and choose when they will or won't try and that cannot serve the club well over the longer term. Establishing a culture that sets high standards will serve the club far better than a bump in the draft order of a few positions.

Winning or playing the right style of football?

I can't see us tanking, but I hope we can get more games into our kids rather than promote guys like Gilbee, Moles etc who aren't in the future of the team.

[GVGjr]

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Winning or playing the right style of football?

Both. We want all players to be primarily focused on wining every game of football they play.
The coach must teach them to play the type of football that will achieve that.