Bankers and Anchors Round 13

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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13235

    #16
    Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

    Bankers: Campbell

    Anchors: the coaching staff, why wasn't Addision moved off McGrath when it was obvious the game was going to get away from us early?

    We'll hear a lot about development and nuturing and structures and adhering to the gameplan, but I question the coaching staffs technical ability to make ad hoc decisions on game day. I am losing faith in our coaching staffs ability to identify gaps in the structure at an early stage in the match, we seem to go into the contest with a set structure with little flexibility or scope for variation in it.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15444

      #17
      Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
      While I understand how you feel, I'm sure Richmond or Melbourne supporters have the right to feel the same. Personally, in the grand scheme of things, I want to live my life, in my work and relationships and achieve goals like Will Minson lifts weights, like Liam Picken attacks a contest, and like Bob Murphy turns and twists. I want to follow a club that inspires me to make the best efforts in life and that always, a club that fights to the bitter end and always makes a contest. And that's why I'm so furious about yesterday and the Swans game. We all have bad days but hell, being beaten so badly on home turf by a cellar dweller was hard to swallow.
      Include the Saints game in and it's been a 1/4 of our games this year that have been insipid.... It just isn't much fun watching us play anymore.

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      • Nuggety Back Pocket
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 2064

        #18
        Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        Bankers: Campbell

        Anchors: the coaching staff, why wasn't Addision moved off McGrath when it was obvious the game was going to get away from us early?

        We'll hear a lot about development and nuturing and structures and adhering to the gameplan, but I question the coaching staffs technical ability to make ad hoc decisions on game day. I am losing faith in our coaching staffs ability to identify gaps in the structure at an early stage in the match, we seem to go into the contest with a set structure with little flexibility or scope for variation in it.
        Your anchors is a good summation. Before BMcC's appointment Addison wasn't considered good enough to be a regular and in the past two games has struggled against both Ebert and McGrath. Addison is a battler at best and his hardness at the ball obviously appeals to the coach. Our disposal is probably the worst in the AFL and whilst we have been competitive in the in close contests the attention to correct disposal is poor to say the least. The lack of pace in the midfield and up forward is still a major concern. Brisbane killed us with the use of their outside players and ability to spread.
        The use of Wood who has genuine speed in a more attacking mid field role is worth trying. We also badly lack a crumbing forward given the use of players like Cordy, Roughead and Jones. Djerrkura could be well suited to this type of role.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

          Banker - Dickson. Love his attack on the ball.

          Anchors - playing Smith instead of DJ.

          The worst kick in today's footy is the bang the ball on the boot and hope it finds someone forward. We've gotta set up better so as to get a designated kicker free. Maybe the problem here is that other teams have the players to cover the ground and close our space (or more who are prepared to do so); even so there are also times where, under no pressure, we turn the ball over.

          If our forward line is deemed slow, what hope have they got if we keep kicking it there hurriedly or without accuracy.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66688

            #20
            Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

            Originally posted by metal
            The worst kick in today's footy is the bang the ball on the boot and hope it finds someone forward.
            This is one area Wood needs to improve on. He looked good running and bouncing the ball but unfortunately when he kicked it it went straight to the opposition on more than one occasion.
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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11245

              #21
              Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

              Originally posted by metal
              The worst kick in today's footy is the bang the ball on the boot and hope it finds someone forward.
              This is one of the cornerstones of our new game plan so I'm not expecting to see less of this as the season progresses....I'm not expecting to enjoy seeing it, nor am I expecting to enjoy seeing the opposition structure up to collect the errant kick unopposed, and then bang it straight back over our heads with interest time and again.
              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6400

                #22
                Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

                Bankers:

                Higgins - played probably his best game of the year, one of the very few to have an impact.

                Anchors:

                Selection - we are far too slow, (of course we subbed out the one of our 4 big blokes that is mobile), we looked are far better side with Sherman and Djerkerra in there.

                Cooney - missed all three of his chances - which were the only times he gave himself and opportunity to influence the game.

                Overuse of the ball - charging inside 50 and we want to thread 3 or 4 handballs....are we trying to kick goals, or kick the best looking team goal of the year?

                Dahlhaus - has been down few weeks, is good at running players down, but regularly misses tackles when a player is coming towards him, and was trying to do a bit too much when he had the footy.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

                  Bankers - Nil

                  Anchors -

                  Where have all the rovers gone? With Cordy, Roughead and Jones rarely taking the big mark in the forward line the ball comes to ground regularly. Imagine the picnic Milne would have around this. Put Dalhouse there and leave him there.

                  Can one of our highly paid coaches rectify Griffens want to kick the ball across his body? He kicks at a 45 degree angle to where he is running.

                  Not since Tom Hafey have we seen a coach so pig-headed in not moving players when they are getting beaten. Addison, Austin. who was like a rabbit in the spot-light when playing deep and Cordy who despite his 6 inch height advantage was a liablity.

                  At no stage in the first three quarters did we look like playing to the fat side when coming out of attack and simply blindly kicked to a contest. What team does that these days?

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                  • Ozza
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6400

                    #24
                    Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

                    Originally posted by EJ Smith
                    Bankers - Nil

                    Anchors -

                    Where have all the rovers gone? With Cordy, Roughead and Jones rarely taking the big mark in the forward line the ball comes to ground regularly. Imagine the picnic Milne would have around this. Put Dalhouse there and leave him there.

                    Can one of our highly paid coaches rectify Griffens want to kick the ball across his body? He kicks at a 45 degree angle to where he is running.

                    Not since Tom Hafey have we seen a coach so pig-headed in not moving players when they are getting beaten. Addison, Austin. who was like a rabbit in the spot-light when playing deep and Cordy who despite his 6 inch height advantage was a liablity.

                    At no stage in the first three quarters did we look like playing to the fat side when coming out of attack and simply blindly kicked to a contest. What team does that these days?
                    Pretty spot on post EJ. I'm not phased about the Griffen kicking point. But your comments about Dahlhaus, Cordy, Addison and Austin - couldn't agree more.

                    We played some really dumb footy at times (a fair bit of the time). Gee I hope this over-obsession with contested footy - which is getting us killed currently - pays off in the long run.

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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      #25
                      Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

                      Originally posted by metal

                      The worst kick in today's footy is the bang the ball on the boot and hope it finds someone forward.
                      The fact is that under the usual circumstances it's either that or get done for holding the ball where you are.

                      There are so many players around the ball and the defensive pressure is so high, you have no alternative.

                      The fault is not with the kicker, it's with the way we set up further down the ground. These scrub kicks under pressure will always happen, so we simply can't allow the opposition to set up 'plus one' in this area (to use popular recent vernacular). The second part is more old-fashioned - forwards to play in front and be first to move.

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11245

                        #26
                        Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

                        Originally posted by Ozza
                        Dahlhaus - has been down few weeks, is good at running players down, but regularly misses tackles when a player is coming towards him, and was trying to do a bit too much when he had the footy.
                        Missed one poor tackle on Redden early in the last qtr that cost us a goal but otherwise I haven't seen him miss too many tackles lately.

                        I reckon Dahlhaus is being judged quite harshly this season. Rightly or wrongly he is spending much more time in the midfield as is the wont of the new match commitee, and I think long-term this will be extremely valuable to the team - I love the idea of sound decision-makers and good users of the ball like Libba and Dahl powering our engine room in 2-3 years' time. Dahlhaus' work in the midfield this season has been underrated IMO - because he's not doing as much of the electrifying stuff his value is not as apparent but it is definitely there IMO. The fact that opposition clubs are already putting a lot of time into him defensively is testament to his talent and the danger he poses. The more time he spends in the middle in the formative stages of his career, the quicker his tank will build so that he can make sustained efforts more consistently every week and over the course of 120 minutes each week - remember we aren't contending for another 2-3 seasons so I'm thinking about our midfield set-up in 2015, and Libba, Wallis (if his rate of improvement this season continues) and Dahl is a pretty awesome starting midfield to potentially work with, especially with Griffen still at his prime.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • Doc26
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3087

                          #27
                          Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

                          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                          While I understand how you feel, I'm sure Richmond or Melbourne supporters have the right to feel the same.
                          For some of us at least, not exactly the same right GD. For me, I've seen 3 Richmond premierships and them compete in 4 Grand Finals, even with Melbourne I've seen them 'compete' in the '88 and 2000 Grand Finals although '88 would've been a bit of a nightmare for them. My tally to date of Bulldog GFs seen is zip.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66688

                            #28
                            Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

                            Originally posted by Doc26
                            For some of us at least, not exactly the same right GD. For me, I've seen 3 Richmond premierships and them compete in 4 Grand Finals, even with Melbourne I've seen them 'compete' in the '88 and 2000 Grand Finals although '88 would've been a bit of a nightmare for them. My tally to date of Bulldog GFs seen is zip.
                            I was five when we last played in the GF. It really stinks and I am becoming very bitter about it.
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                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14617

                              #29
                              Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              I was five when we last played in the GF. It really stinks and I am becoming very bitter about it.
                              I'm just thankful that I've got Chelsea as well or I would be a very bitter supporter right now.
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #30
                                Re: Bankers and Anchors Round 13

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                I was five when we last played in the GF. It really stinks and I am becoming very bitter about it.
                                Me too and me too!!

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