A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66199

    A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

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    Dear member,



    I should start by making clear we are disappointed with how we are going but we are keeping it all in perspective.

    Football is a tough business, and resilient people find their way through.

    We are teaching our players the right way to play the game. We’re teaching the contest, we’re teaching people to think about defending a bit earlier and how to make it hard for the opposition to do what they want and we’re also coaching people to be smarter with the ball.

    At the moment you’d be watching thinking ‘that’s not what we’re seeing.’

    We have to keep educating people, demanding standards, demanding effort and rewarding people who give us that.

    We have a lot of people in our team that have so much to learn about the game based on the fact that they’ve only been playing a short period of time.

    I was fortunate to be a part of another club in a similar position and have had the privilege to experience first-hand how challenging but how enjoyable it is to have a philosophy and see it through. That philosophy is to draft and develop your own and bring people into the organisation that fit what we’re about — people that put the team first and who take great pride in how their Club is seen. We will plan and prepare and see it through.

    The difference between good clubs and great clubs is that they focus on how they can get a player better, not bash them over the head and throw them out the door.

    We have a new way of doing things here. A new approach to education and learning — experience tells me, it just takes time.

    We'll find the way through this.



    Sincerely,

    Brendan
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21605

    #2
    Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

    I'm actually a little shocked by the second section of this address. I know I posted earlier in the season that I thought McCartney danced on Eade's grave a little with some of his commentary, and while not meaning to bang on about it too much again I think he's been a little disrespectful towards the achievements of his predecessor, particularly with respect to how Eade managed to teach a group of non-believing players how to play his way extremely well (one might argue over whether we had the talent to achieve the ultimate success, irrespective of that I think Eade extracted a lot from his group of players over the years).

    I really liked the first half though, a fair bit of it resonated with how I'm feeling now.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      #3
      Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

      He didn't say it was better. He just said it was new! But yes, agree, the inference was there.
      Remains to be seen if Rocket's tenure can be bettered.
      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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      • Maddog37
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3132

        #4
        Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

        What would be the point of hiring a new coach if he didn't bring a new way of doing things to the table?

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21605

          #5
          Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

          Originally posted by Maddog37
          What would be the point of hiring a new coach if he didn't bring a new way of doing things to the table?
          There wouldn't be any point in it, of course.

          Personally I think certain parts of his message could be put to the members a little more tactfully (as he has managed to do in many cases this year), though I'm more than prepared for my point of view not to be shared by other posters and Bulldogs supporters.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • AndrewP6
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2009
            • 8142

            #6
            Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

            Originally posted by jeemak
            There wouldn't be any point in it, of course.

            Personally I think certain parts of his message could be put to the members a little more tactfully (as he has managed to do in many cases this year), though I'm more than prepared for my point of view not to be shared by other posters and Bulldogs supporters.
            I agree with you on this one.
            [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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            • Hotdog60
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Aug 2009
              • 5852

              #7
              Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

              I would have been happy for Rocket to 'rebuild' this club to the next challenge. But that was out of my control so I'm now happy to see what Maccas 'refresh' goes like in a couple of years time.
              Don't piss off old people
              The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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              • Cyberdoggie
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 2859

                #8
                Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

                To be honest i didnt' really pick that up at all. (in reference to Eade post).

                I think he's talking about himself more than anything.
                Whenever you aren't travelling well people expect you to get angry and make changes etc, but we have clearly seen that this coach likes to stay very linear in his approach from game to game, he doesn't get overly excited when we win or become a rage monster when we lose. I think the second part of that article is perhaps how others may want him to react, get angry bash some heads together and make changes, i know i feel like that every week but i think we would all agree that doesn't usually work.
                Sure we think the structure and some tactics aren't quite right but that's a different argument.

                Yes Eade had a temper and gave players the infamous Rocket, but if we think back on it he also hardly ever made changes, how often were we screaming for 'x' players blood (x = Eagleton) but he almost never made massive changes after a bad loss.

                Perhaps a good example of that would be Neeld from earlier this year. I think his emotions got the better of him and was making changes willy nilly to senior players etc and certainly some faith in him was lost as a result.


                The one thing i don't like about these letters from the coach is consistent reference to previous clubs he's been at, ie how good Geelong are and how great Essendon are.
                I've heard this far too many times and i want to hear how we do things at our club now from the coach. Copying other people doesn't make you the best, creating your own legacy from your experience can.

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #9
                  Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

                  Originally posted by Cyberdoggie

                  Perhaps a good example of that would be Neeld from earlier this year. I think his emotions got the better of him and was making changes willy nilly to senior players etc and certainly some faith in him was lost as a result.
                  An argument could be made that Melbourne are travelling better than we are.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66199

                    #10
                    Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

                    Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                    The one thing i don't like about these letters from the coach is consistent reference to previous clubs he's been at, ie how good Geelong are and how great Essendon are.
                    I've heard this far too many times and i want to hear how we do things at our club now from the coach. Copying other people doesn't make you the best, creating your own legacy from your experience can.
                    Yes, that is the one thing I don't like either, who cares about other clubs and how they do things. Keep that to yourself.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #11
                      Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

                      Yes me too. We can't play the way Geelong did. Can't copy their model verbatim. Name dropping.
                      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                      • Cyberdoggie
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2859

                        #12
                        Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

                        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                        Yes me too. We can't play the way Geelong did. Can't copy their model verbatim. Name dropping.
                        He's also expressing far too much man love for Essendon and their 'people' lately.

                        If there is one thing a bulldogs person shouldn't do it's that.

                        I don't mind if he does, and he probably should given he worked there but keept that too yourself now. I want to see ruthlessness to all our competitors, not mutual respect or a love in, at least on camera.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #13
                          Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

                          How do the players that don't get rotated through the first team get educated?

                          & what happened to easing a young first year player into AFL? has Smith missed a game?

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                          • Greystache
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            #14
                            Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

                            Originally posted by Dale_dogs
                            How do the players that don't get rotated through the first team get educated?

                            & what happened to easing a young first year player into AFL? has Smith missed a game?
                            He's played 8 out of 14, do you feel that is too many?
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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: A Message From Brendan McCartney - 3rd July, 2012

                              Originally posted by Greystache
                              He's played 8 out of 14, do you feel that is too many?
                              My point! he's got six to go!

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