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  • Eastdog
    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
    • Feb 2012
    • 18236

    Panos and Jones Combination up forward

    I thought I'll start a thread to get WOOFERS thoughts on this forward combination of Jones and Panos. Could it potentially work down the track for us?
    "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"
  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    #2
    Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

    It would be difficult with Panos playing at Willy...

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    • SlimPickens
      Coaching Staff
      • Aug 2010
      • 2929

      #3
      Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

      Originally posted by hotdog
      It would be difficult with Panos playing at Willy...
      As is Jones this week, let's see what happens.
      "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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      • Eastdog
        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
        • Feb 2012
        • 18236

        #4
        Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

        See what they do at Williamstown first but I'm saying in the senior side could they be a good forward combination.
        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

          Jones is not the answer to our future forwardline!

          I keep hearing about his talent "this kids the future", "he will be a good key forward", He's gonna this, & gonna that! I'm yet to see anything apart from he can't kick ,can't mark or handball!
          I would love to see Panos get a shot in the team. You never know he might be the answer?

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          • Sockeye Salmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6365

            #6
            Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

            Originally posted by Dale_dogs
            Jones is not the answer to our future forwardline!

            I keep hearing about his talent "this kids the future", "he will be a good key forward", He's gonna this, & gonna that! I'm yet to see anything apart from he can't kick ,can't mark or handball!
            I would love to see Panos get a shot in the team. You never know he might be the answer?
            20 game rule (on both counts).

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            • Cyberdoggie
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 2859

              #7
              Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

              Originally posted by SlimPickens
              As is Jones this week, let's see what happens.
              Will be interesting to hear the reports on how this works.

              I've been curious about it for a while now and personally i think they complement each other nicely. Sure they are a long way off from being world beaters but i think Panos has enough smarts and is a reliable kick to be a good foil if he can get his game and fitness up to AFL standard. Jones we know can play a strong marking chf lead up go to man but is down on confidence and struggled everywhere this year. If he did get his A game back again along with Jarrad Grant i think the three of them do have qualities we can use.

              Roughead, Cordy Campbell, Minson are more your big ruckmen forwards who kind of get in the way a little and are probably less accountable than the others.

              I think we've just been too obsessed with finding a big strong tall that we have been trying to force one of these guys to be a saviour, instead of looking to players strengths and where they might complement each other with balance.

              Panos has shown albeit at Willy and Nab cup that he has a very good football brain, he's a natural footballer with excellent skills, but isn't quick or super strong overhead.
              He is however very creative by hand or foot and smart enough to sneak out on a short lead, and i'd back him to kick most goals.
              The others in comparison look like they have all the physical attributes but look like they have come straight from basketball or something. Mixing Panos in there might just bring some balance back.

              Who knows, i think it's worth a try and i'm hoping he kicks 4-5 and Jones kicks 3 but takes 15 contested marks

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              • Cyberdoggie
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 2859

                #8
                Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

                Originally posted by Dale_dogs
                Jones is not the answer to our future forwardline!

                I keep hearing about his talent "this kids the future", "he will be a good key forward", He's gonna this, & gonna that! I'm yet to see anything apart from he can't kick ,can't mark or handball!
                I would love to see Panos get a shot in the team. You never know he might be the answer?
                He could mark ok last year.

                He's clearly a confidence player with raw ability and a poor kick (i'll give you that one).

                Thrusting him to the focus as the saviour was not a good plan but he's gonna have to learn from it and pick himself up now.

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                • Cyberdoggie
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 2859

                  #9
                  Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

                  Peter German's review of Panos isn't too gleaming:

                  "Matt Panos: He played forward and kicked two first quarter goals. He had a couple of opportunities to kick another couple but just got caught with the ball. His attack on the ball was good and we were pleased with his approach to the game. If a bit of luck went his way he could have quite easily kicked four goals and hopefully that is a game he can really keep building on. "

                  Basically saying he's too slow for AFL. If he's getting caught at Willy then this will show up more at another level.


                  OK who's the next gun forward?

                  ........Tom Hill!

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                  • Greystache
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    #10
                    Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

                    Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                    Peter German's review of Panos isn't too gleaming:

                    "Matt Panos: He played forward and kicked two first quarter goals. He had a couple of opportunities to kick another couple but just got caught with the ball. His attack on the ball was good and we were pleased with his approach to the game. If a bit of luck went his way he could have quite easily kicked four goals and hopefully that is a game he can really keep building on. "

                    Basically saying he's too slow for AFL. If he's getting caught at Willy then this will show up more at another level.


                    OK who's the next gun forward?

                    ........Tom Hill!
                    I remember that play, I forgot to mention it in my write up.

                    Basically he got the ball over the back of a marking contest about 40m out and took off towards goal, he had the chance to kick it from 20m, but ran an extra few steps and a defender came in from the blind side and tackled him. It was a bit of a howler to be honest, but I wouldn't necessarily put it down to lack of pace, more lack of vision and trying to get too close to goal before taking the shot.
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

                      Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                      Peter German's review of Panos isn't too gleaming:

                      "Matt Panos: He played forward and kicked two first quarter goals. He had a couple of opportunities to kick another couple but just got caught with the ball. His attack on the ball was good and we were pleased with his approach to the game. If a bit of luck went his way he could have quite easily kicked four goals and hopefully that is a game he can really keep building on. "

                      Basically saying he's too slow for AFL. If he's getting caught at Willy then this will show up more at another level.


                      OK who's the next gun forward?

                      ........Tom Hill!
                      When you rebuild everyone should get a taste.

                      You never know some might shine on a big stage.

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        #12
                        Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

                        Originally posted by Dale_dogs
                        Jones is not the answer to our future forwardline!

                        I keep hearing about his talent "this kids the future", "he will be a good key forward", He's gonna this, & gonna that! I'm yet to see anything apart from he can't kick ,can't mark or handball!
                        I would love to see Panos get a shot in the team. You never know he might be the answer?
                        Bookmark this thread ^^
                        Takes key forwards years to become good players! He needs to increase his aerobic capacity and second efforts. To early to call

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                        • Ozza
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6407

                          #13
                          Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

                          I love how tall forwards are either the 'answer' or not 'the answer'.

                          They can't just be AFL players.

                          In my opinion, Jones will make it. He has the required attributes - but just has to learn the game more - and have the team playing with some form of structure.

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                          • Eastdog
                            WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 18236

                            #14
                            Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

                            Originally posted by Ozza
                            I love how tall forwards are either the 'answer' or not 'the answer'.

                            They can't just be AFL players.

                            In my opinion, Jones will make it. He has the required attributes - but just has to learn the game more - and have the team playing with some form of structure.
                            We forget that Jones is still young and I think he can be a quality player if he improves his weaknesses to his game.
                            "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10114

                              #15
                              Re: Panos and Jones Combination up forward

                              Interesting thread.

                              In theory they should compliment each other well, one being a more traditional lead up, mark and kick straight and the other being the more powerful, contested marking style forward. At the moment we are too heavy in contested marking style forwards, so having a bloke like Panos (as opposed to small/medium sized lead up players) adds a point of difference.

                              We may see it one day at AFL level...
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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