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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    Get Daniel Connors

    Who thinks we should make a play for the discarded Tiger's midfielder?

    1. The Tigers have done the hard work with him.

    2. We would get him for next to nothing.
    3. If it did go pear shaped, the public would understand it's his problem not ours.
    4. It reflects well on us and will bring us publicity one way or another!

    I say we get him and try to make him a better person. If 'teacher' McCartney is serious about his work, he can't always take the easy road. Connors would represent a challenge for him

    If his recruitment was paired with a living situation where he was placed with a family or other leaders, got stuck into community work and had a steady girl, I think we could make a player out of him.
    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44314

    #2
    Re: Get Daniel Connors

    Are you not concerned about the negative impact he had on Martin? It's probably not a show stopper but it certainly needs to be considered especially with a developing list.

    We have a player or two lacking intensity so I'm not that comfortable about adding someone who isn't as dedicated as we need them to be. I would want to be convinced that the downside is minimal.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      #3
      Re: Get Daniel Connors

      Can't have enough drunks at the club. King and Grant could give him specialised coaching.

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #4
        Re: Get Daniel Connors

        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
        Can't have enough drunks at the club. King and Grant could give him specialised coaching.
        Sure! We could start our own AA group!
        Face it SS, the AFL is full of booze hounds.
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          #5
          Re: Get Daniel Connors

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Are you not concerned about the negative impact he had on Martin? It's probably not a show stopper but it certainly needs to be considered especially with a developing list.

          We have a player or two lacking intensity so I'm not that comfortable about adding someone who isn't as dedicated as we need them to be. I would want to be convinced that the downside is minimal.
          The issues were what he did off the field. Not on it, right? I put a positive spin in the OP to start the debate, but I'm a bit more neutral than that. GVG, do you think he would be a bigger risk than Aker or Barry?
          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44314

            #6
            Re: Get Daniel Connors

            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
            The issues were what he did off the field. Not on it, right? I put a positive spin in the OP to start the debate, but I'm a bit more neutral than that. GVG, do you think he would be a bigger risk than Aker or Barry?
            On the field he could be an above average player but off the field I would say he is a far bigger risk than either Hall or Akermanis were for us and he certainly couldn't be expected to meet their on field efforts.
            Aker's mouth off the field is the problem not his actions. In other words he is a good citizen. Hall was a mature player who had shown some signs of trying to get his act together on the field. The biggest risk he posed was with sponsors.

            Connors won't be a star on the field and he won't put bums on seats like the other two did.

            He's worth a consideration but is he really worth the risk? The upside is just average and the downside could be a bit bigger.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • Hotdog60
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Aug 2009
              • 5843

              #7
              Re: Get Daniel Connors

              Does he come under Maccas quality young man priority. I don't think he means football skills.
              Don't piss off old people
              The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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              • Ghost Dog
                WOOF Member
                • May 2010
                • 9404

                #8
                Re: Get Daniel Connors

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                On the field he could be an above average player but off the field I would say he is a far bigger risk than either Hall or Akermanis were for us and he certainly couldn't be expected to meet their on field efforts.
                Aker's mouth off the field is the problem not his actions. In other words he is a good citizen. Hall was a mature player who had shown some signs of trying to get his act together on the field. The biggest risk he posed was with sponsors.

                Connors won't be a star on the field and he won't put bums on seats like the other two did.

                He's worth a consideration but is he really worth the risk? The upside is just average and the downside could be a bit bigger.
                Fair call. So his ability to tick people off is going to outweigh anything he can bring to the table.
                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                • boydogs
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5842

                  #9
                  Re: Get Daniel Connors

                  A club has to have standards, GD. Can't bring someone in with 3 strikes against them and expect the rest of the squad to toe the line.
                  If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                  Formerly gogriff

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44314

                    #10
                    Re: Get Daniel Connors

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    Fair call. So his ability to tick people off is going to outweigh anything he can bring to the table.
                    I think it neutralizes things to some extent. He might add some value or he might cause an issue or two. I suppose I'd want us to consider if we thought we could get more out of him. A lot of good players aren't given 2nd chances so why are we confident that Connors is worth being given another chance?
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • anfo27
                      WOOF Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2002

                      #11
                      Re: Get Daniel Connors

                      Macca has enough challenges on his hands without adding this bloke to his list. No thanks.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66135

                        #12
                        Re: Get Daniel Connors

                        No thank you, we don't need someone with off field issues.
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                        • Eastdog
                          WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 18232

                          #13
                          Re: Get Daniel Connors

                          It's a risk because his got potential to be good but at the same his off field issues are a concern. Could you compare him to Cousins sort of. Cousins 'bigger name' had drug issues but was still playing. What role would he play in our side?
                          "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                          • SonofScray
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4214

                            #14
                            Re: Get Daniel Connors

                            If he was a gun I'd say yes. But he isn't really at that level. Suggestion from people I know who've played with him is that he just has one too many screws loose.
                            Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: Get Daniel Connors

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog

                              1. The Tigers have done the hard work with him.

                              2. We would get him for next to nothing.
                              3. If it did go pear shaped, the public would understand it's his problem not ours.
                              4. It reflects well on us and will bring us publicity one way or another!

                              .
                              Sorry, GD, I can't think of a worse idea.

                              1. It didn't work, they gave up on him.
                              2. You get what you pay for.
                              3. If he's on our list, he's our problem (and he will be a problem)
                              4 See #3.

                              Daniel Connors is damaged goods. Does not fit the desired profile, i.e. he is not a 'good person' for our club. Plough was on SEN the other day talking about drafting him at pick 57 when he was Richmond coach. Connors was All-Australian as an U18 - in the best 22 that year - and he went at 57! because of his, already well known, issues (Tigers recruiting to rival Tambling). Leopards don't change spots and this Tiger is the same; he has had uncounted chances at Punt Rd, the latest being the straw that broke the camel's back. Connors shouldn't be considered for another chance, especially from us. We should stick with the coach's mantra, and develop our own, not draft mature troublemakers.

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