Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

That's why I said it.

right after you suggested moving 1/3 of our backline also into our forward line.

[Doggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

6 goals total.

Is that the 3rd time this year we have kicked 6 for the whole game

[Eastdog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

6 goals total.

Is that the 3rd time this year we have kicked 6 for the whole game

Not sure exactly but I'm interested in what our average score is this year.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Point taken but I don't know about that. KT alone would have got us 10 goals closer today.

It was something like 70 to 30 inside 50s maybe one or two goals difference not 10.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Howard was awful and i still havent seen him give anything to give any reason as to why we would have chosen him in the first round of any draft. He is soft, has very little awareness of the game around him and his decision making is not up to the mark at all. I am also yet to see any elite kicking.

I know singleing out anyone after a 2nd half like that is not right, but Howard has been really annoying me for quite some time and i thought today that he started off badly (when in general the team was playing well) and he only got worse from there on.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Howard was awful and i still havent seen him give anything to give any reason as to why we would have chosen him in the first round of any draft. He is soft, has very little awareness of the game around him and his decision making is not up to the mark at all. I am also yet to see any elite kicking.

I know singleing out anyone after a 2nd half like that is not right, but Howard has been really annoying me for quite some time and i thought today that he started off badly (when in general the team was playing well) and he only got worse from there on.

He's supposed to replace Gilbee. He isn't even close.

[Sedat]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Went to the game today - we are the least skilled, slowest, ugliest team to watch right now. I'm sure BMac is working towards some grand plan but buggered if I know what it is. We are so careful and timid when in possession because the opposition structure up to win the ball off us at the next contest. We can't hit a target to save ourselves, and our ball movement is so predictable to even half decent teams. Our last 6 weeks of footy has been as putrid as anything from the dim dark Royce Hart days, forget about Peter Rhode.

Put the red pen through Howard. He lacks any semblance of one on one smarts, which defenders cannot do without. He lacks leg speed so cannot get separation to use his left peg, which means a midfield gig won't suit him either. Maybe we can package him to Port as part of the Boak trade if they are interested.

We have a world of problems both on and off the ground.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

He's supposed to replace Gilbee. He isn't even close.

What do you mean? I think he can one day match Gilbee's effort from today.

[Eastdog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

So is there any upside to Howard or will he be a dud. What year is this for him again?

[Hotdog60]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

What do you mean? I think he can one day match Gilbee's effort from today.

True he might, but will he ever match him from 4 or 5 seasons back.

[Maddog37]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Seems strange that we get absolutely pumped and it was all Howard's fault. Everyone else must have played well.......How many games has he played again?

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Seems strange that we get absolutely pumped and it was all Howard's fault. Everyone else must have played well.......How many games has he played again?

I don't think one person has laid the blame at Howard's feet. Rather many have pointed out the blinding obvious, that both his effort and skill today aren't even close to being up to scratch in the most basic aspects of the game.
I think most can accept mistakes -when a bloke is trying, that is part of the learning experience. Not exhibiting the required effort to even apply yourself to the task is another thing entirely.

[The Pie Man]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

I don't think one person has laid the blame at Howard's feet. Rather many have pointed out the blinding obvious, that both his effort and skill today aren't even close to being up to scratch in the most basic aspects of the game.
I think most can accept mistakes -when a bloke is trying, that is part of the learning experience. Not exhibiting the required effort to even apply yourself to the task is another thing entirely.

This - today's result wasn't his fault (of course) but now is the opportunity to see who we can work with moving forward. It's not just today, but today felt like the final nail in Howard's AFL career. Just not competitive enough

[Eastdog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

This - today's result wasn't his fault (of course) but now is the opportunity to see who we can work with moving forward. It's not just today, but today felt like the final nail in Howard's AFL career. Just not competitive enough

Agree. Our season is long gone so that is what we should do.

[SonofScray]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

We were promised fight, contested footy and a ruthless pursuit of physical contests. We are getting none of it.