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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66724

    Let the tanking begin

    Over the last few weeks of the season, ie whats left, I would play Roberts, Pearce, Jones, Skinner, Hill, Campbell, Panos, upgrade JJ and lets see what they are made of. It won't hurt to give them a game.
    Last edited by Bornadog; 16-07-2012, 09:28 PM.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44644

    #2
    Re: Let the tanking begin

    Wow, I expected this sort of tripe from others but not Bornadog.

    We can't get supporters to go to games now and the answer apparently is to lay down and give them no reason to attend.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • Maddog37
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3132

      #3
      Re: Let the tanking begin

      I must agree with playing people that need to be assessed as to their future at the club.

      They need to be in form as per Roberts and JJ. No token games.

      Is that tanking?

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15448

        #4
        Re: Let the tanking begin

        What's the point of playing kids in a team with no structure and a mentality of 'laying over'.

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        • Maddog37
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3132

          #5
          Re: Let the tanking begin

          What's the point in playing old guys?

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66724

            #6
            Re: Let the tanking begin

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Wow, I expected this sort of tripe from others but not Bornadog.

            We can't get supporters to go to games now and the answer apparently is to lay down and give them no reason to attend.
            Gary, just a discussion thread to see what posters think for the rest of the season. Would you play any of the kids who haven't had a chance yet?
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            • SlimPickens
              Coaching Staff
              • Aug 2010
              • 2929

              #7
              Re: Let the tanking begin

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Over the last few weeks of the season, ie whats left, I would play Roberts, Pearce, Jones, Skinner, Hill, Campbell, upgrade JJ and lets see what they are made of. It won't hurt to give them a game.
              Why would we need to tank? The way we are playing would suggest we're not likely to win another game for the season.

              Why not just focus on getting the mix right that will take us forward and leave the idea of tanking out of it.
              "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44644

                #8
                Re: Let the tanking begin

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Gary, just a discussion thread to see what posters think for the rest of the season. Would you play any of the kids who haven't had a chance yet?
                The thread title is about tanking and if we do it I hope we lose our draft picks. The lesson will then be learned.

                If you are talking about specifically developing some players then the thread title is way off course.

                I'm still of the belief that a position in the senior side needs to be earned not handed out like a free sample in a supermarket.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44644

                  #9
                  Re: Let the tanking begin

                  Originally posted by SlimPickens
                  Why would we need to tank? The way we are playing would suggest we're not likely to win another game for the season.

                  Why not just focus on getting the mix right that will take us forward and leave the idea of tanking out of it.
                  Exactly right. The ongoing theme by supporters to want to cheat the system is a shocking indictment of the game and threatens full on free agency. Why have a draft if this is what people keep asking for.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66724

                    #10
                    Re: Let the tanking begin

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    The thread title is about tanking and if we do it I hope we lose our draft picks. The lesson will then be learned.

                    If you are talking about specifically developing some players then the thread title is way off course.

                    I'm still of the believe that a position in the senior side needs to be earned not handed out like a free sample in a supermarket.
                    Yeah probably not a good choice of the thread title, but gets the attention of posters

                    However, I would like to see a few more players debut this season to give them a taste. With Marckovic doing a Hammy, why not try Roberts, he has been playing well at Willi. You note I didn't mention Talia, I think next year he may get a crack. JJ has been playing well, and his pace is something we need. I thought Pearce should have had a few more games and prefer him in than Gilbee. We have tried Campbell, so why not try Hill. He seems to have kicked a few in the last couple of weeks (albeit in the Dev squad).

                    The beltings surely can't be worse than what we are getting.

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    The ongoing theme by supporters to want to cheat the system is a shocking indictment of the game and threatens full on free agency. Why have a draft if this is what people keep asking for.
                    I would never ever advocate we lose on purpose. We must try and win every game.
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                    • jazzadogs
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5645

                      #11
                      Re: Let the tanking begin

                      Agree with the sentiment, but not the thread title.

                      I would actually be extremely disappointed if the club doesn't continue trialling our younger players at the expense of those who are likely to be delisted/retired at seasons end. A mass cleanout does seem like the best option, and we need to analyse our list to determine who should be involved. Not only that, but we need to continue the development of those players who are going to be part of our next premiership tilt.

                      One of the major issues I can see is that a lot of the players we need/want to look at are tall, and we can't afford to have too many talls in the side at one time.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44644

                        #12
                        Re: Let the tanking begin

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        However, I would like to see a few more players debut this season to give them a taste. With Marckovic doing a Hammy, why not try Roberts, he has been playing well at Willi.
                        That's just natural progression and development. It's interesting you have gone with Roberts instead of Talia but why not Jones to replace Markovic or is he a little old?

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        JJ has been playing well, and his pace is something we need. I thought Pearce should have had a few more games and prefer him in than Gilbee. We have tried Campbell, so why not try Hill. He seems to have kicked a few in the last couple of weeks (albeit in the Dev squad).
                        JJ isn't long back from an injury and I think he needs a couple of more weeks.

                        I think we have been developing the younger players on the list but I think bringing 4 or 5 of them in won't help them long term
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                        • chef
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14622

                          #13
                          Re: Let the tanking begin

                          TBH we are that bad, do we really need to tank?

                          We are going to finish bottom 3 the way we are going anyway.
                          The curse is dead.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66724

                            #14
                            Re: Let the tanking begin

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            That's just natural progression and development. It's interesting you have gone with Roberts instead of Talia but why not Jones to replace Markovic or is he a little old? I think we have been developing the younger players on the list but I think bringing 4 or 5 of them in won't help them long term
                            Not sure what you mean by that comment?

                            We have 7 games to play, not saying bring in 4 or 5 in one week. I would like to see some guys given a go between now and then season end.
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Remi Moses
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 14785

                              #15
                              Re: Let the tanking begin

                              Don't need to even contemplate it.
                              We're a bad team already, and young players will get a look in.
                              Any end of season surgeries should happen now.

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