Draft Results a Mixed Bag?

[FrediKanoute]

I am happy we took Grant and Ward with picks 5 and 19, but I am a little mystified by who we took with our remaining picks, especially given that thre were some quality talls left in the draft pool. Gourdis was one that stands out. I haven't seen him play, but guys like Weaver on BF and MJP here rate the kid, so surely we could have taken him with one of our later picks instead of going for more flanker runners. Its all very well to say hey we'll just rookie them, but I would have thought that he was worth a pick in the 60's.

[GVGjr]

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Good points Fredi. We certainly didn't bend to the notion that we must select a set number of KPP. Clayton said their would be a mixture of tall and smalls and might have been just one tall player short of that.

[Go_Dogs]

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With the acquisition of Welsh a near certainty, and 2 tall forwards being selected I feel it was a good mix. Listening to SEN it was said that Gourdis changed his kicking foot a few years ago, and has quite a few issues with his kicking, perhaps the reason Clayton and every other recruiter stayed away from him.

IMO, we really needed some hard nosed runners, so I'm quite happy with the other selections in theory. Gourdis would most likely not play AFL next year anyway, so why put him on the senior list if we aren't convinced?

[Topdog]

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I am happy we took Grant and Ward with picks 5 and 19, but I am a little mystified by who we took with our remaining picks, especially given that thre were some quality talls left in the draft pool. Gourdis was one that stands out. I haven't seen him play, but guys like Weaver on BF and MJP here rate the kid, so surely we could have taken him with one of our later picks instead of going for more flanker runners. Its all very well to say hey we'll just rookie them, but I would have thought that he was worth a pick in the 60's.

I find it odd that no team picked him. There simply has to be more to it.

[LostDoggy]

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the cheaper we can get him the better

[Dry Rot]

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I find it odd that no team picked him. There simply has to be more to it.

Agreed. If you want to criticise Clayton for not taking him, then 15 other recruiting guys are wrong too.


I'm delighted that we seem to have got the best forward in the draft for once.

[LostDoggy]

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With the acquisition of Welsh a near certainty, and 2 tall forwards being selected I feel it was a good mix. Listening to SEN it was said that Gourdis changed his kicking foot a few years ago, and has quite a few issues with his kicking, perhaps the reason Clayton and every other recruiter stayed away from him.

IMO, we really needed some hard nosed runners, so I'm quite happy with the other selections in theory. Gourdis would most likely not play AFL next year anyway, so why put him on the senior list if we aren't convinced?

Am i the only person to read that and go wtf? What would make someone change their kicking foot. Style maybe, but foot. Thats pretty extreme. Maybe he broke his old kicking leg so decided to play it safe???

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I'm delighted that we seem to have got the best forward in the draft for once.

Ditto.

I know the whole, "he's special, he could be anything" line is thrown around a bit, but It's exciting to hear that attached to the best KPF in the draft that we've picked up for once. Just through what I've read, I liked the sound of Grant, so I'll be following his progress closely over the next few years.

I agree that there must be something more re; Gourdis, but I'm sure if he was very talented, clubs would of taken him regardless. Unless of course, it's something serious.

Still, if we could pick up him, Geartner or a young ruck (Bellchambers? Renton?) in the rookie draft, I'll be happy.

1 Ruck (Hudson)
3 KPF's (Grant, Boumann, Welsh)
3 Mids (Ward, Reid, Wood)
1 Small FWD (O'Keefe)
1 Small Back (Callan)

Through the rookie draft if we can add another ruck or perhaps a Gourdis/Geartner, then I think we should all be very pleased with this seasons drafting/trading outcome. In the ideal world, we'd pick up a ruck & Gourdis/Geartner, but I'm probably being a bit too optimistic

[Dry Rot]

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Ditto.

I know the whole, "he's special, he could be anything" line is thrown around a bit, but It's exciting to hear that attached to the best KPF in the draft that we've picked up for once. Just through what I've read, I liked the sound of Grant, so I'll be following his progress closely over the next few years.

The draft I suppose is a market, with 16 players making calls about the "goods".

I find it interesting that Henderson, Rance and McEvoy all fell much later than I thought they would - a substantial number of market "players" didn't rate them as their #1 choice.

[Dry Rot]

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BTW, any thoughts on other clubs' picks, strategies etc?

[Bulldog Revolution]

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The draft I suppose is a market, with 16 players making calls about the "goods".

I find it interesting that Henderson, Rance and McEvoy all fell much later than I thought they would - a substantial number of market "players" didn't rate them as their #1 choice.

Those three really highlight the difficulty AFL clubs have projecting how well big guys will adjust to senior footy - its just so much harder to know how they will go.

Regarding Gouridis and Gaertner - it seems that both have major kicking issues, and there were a number of references to Gaertners lack of maturity

[Go_Dogs]

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BTW, any thoughts on other clubs' picks, strategies etc?

WC did exceptionally well. Port's picks will be ones I watch with interest, they really turned out some quality picks last year, and Westhoff#2, Motlop and some of these other guys could also add a lot to their lists.

I was shocked Adelaide didn't go for Ebert, as I though goal kicking midfielders would be very high on their list. They obviously rated Dangerfield ahead of Ebert, but was an interesting choice.

Interesting to see Geelong pick up 21 y.o key forward whose 'ready to go' when they had one, and a very good one, playing in their VFL side last year.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Good points Fredi. We certainly didn't bend to the notion that we must select a set number of KPP. Clayton said their would be a mixture of tall and smalls and might have been just one tall player short of that.

I'm very happy with this draft on the surface of it.. GVGjr What talls that were out there by the time of our 3rd round pick that you think we should've nabbed?
I think Ward was too good to pass up at pick 19, and I think there maybe still some options for us in the rookie draft re Bellchambers, Gourdis or Gaertner.

[GVGjr]

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I'm very happy with this draft on the surface of it.. GVGjr What talls that were out there by the time of our 3rd round pick that you think we should've nabbed?
I think Ward was too good to pass up at pick 19, and I think there maybe still some options for us in the rookie draft re Bellchambers, Gourdis or Gaertner.

One of those guys would have been a nice addition I think. I thought getting a ruckman like Renton or Bellchambers would have been a good investment

[Topdog]

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One of those guys would have been a nice addition I think. I thought getting a ruckman like Renton or Bellchambers would have been a good investment

I thought so too at the time but it's very strange that all 16 clubs passed on them.

This is not to say that all 16 can't make a mistake but there has to be some reason for it.