Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

[LostDoggy]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

MJP does not believe we would be that much worse off either, fair to say I agree with him.
I wanted you out the last 5 years, does not necessarily mean it is going to happen.

Sorry I know MJP too and remember him telling me he was never made one wrong call ever.
A suppose a bit like Chris Grant couldn't possibly ever make a wrong call either.

Without me no one replies to you.

[Desipura]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

Sorry I know MJP too and remember him telling me he was never made one wrong call ever.
A suppose a bit like Chris Grant couldn't possibly ever make a wrong call either.

Without me no one replies to you.

You are not as significant as you make out to be. You give your own opinion and claim them to be fact, that sounds to me like someone who is looking for a reaction or perhaps wants to be relevant. Minson has had a very good season although will never become the A grade ruckman that you are pinning your hopes on.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

You are not as significant as you make out to be. You give your own opinion and claim them to be fact, that sounds to me like someone who is looking for a reaction or perhaps wants to be relevant. Minson has had a very good season although will never become the A grade ruckman that you are pinning your hopes on.

? You asked for stats and I gave them to you, your choice to ignore them.
Twice today you have backed up your opinion with someone else that 'must be right'.

[GVGjr]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

How can you say that when you do not know what the compensation is going to be? If we rate him, we will offer him a decent contract, if someone rates him higher they will offer him more.
As a result, our compensation as I understand it should be in line with the best offer.

Don't we need to consider that before we wish him on his way? I'd like to get something decent for the investment we have made in him especially now that his form is so good.

With Campbell at the VFL he gets a lot of hit outs but I wouldn't say he has a high level of efficiency with them. I'm not confident he has the mobility either. Happy to be proven wrong.
Roughead should be OK but I question if he is ready to be the number one guy for a full season.
Cordy has improved but what can he offer us as even as a support ruckman?

I guess I'm not comfortable that we don't have a control with this and I think covering Minson won't be easy.

[Desipura]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

? You asked for stats and I gave them to you, your choice to ignore them.
Twice today you have backed up your opinion with someone else that 'must be right'.

If you had answered my question instead of plucking stats to support your own argument, I would have responded.
What was our clearance rate? A simple question I would have thought.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

Is Will going to be there when we rise up the ladder?
If he wants overs after one good season then he might be gone!
Are we going to get worse without Will?
It's going to be painful with or without him for a few years.

[Desipura]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

Don't we need to consider that before we wish him on his way? I'd like to get something decent for the investment we have made in him especially now that his form is so good.

With Campbell at the VFL he gets a lot of hit outs but I wouldn't say he has a high level of efficiency with them. I'm not confident he has the mobility either. Happy to be proven wrong.
Roughead should be OK but I question if he is ready to be the number one guy for a full season.
Cordy has improved but what can he offer us as even as a support ruckman?

I guess I'm not comfortable that we don't have a control with this and I think covering Minson won't be easy.

As stated previously, happy to offer a decent contract without paying overs.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

If you had answered my question instead of plucking stats to support your own argument, I would have responded.
What was our clearance rate? A simple question I would have thought.

What is magical stat clearance rate? Never heard it mentioned by anyone but you.
If 30 % of his 54 taps went to advantage that's 16 or so. Who knows how many of those were clearances? Not sure its all his responsibility from that point anyway.
He had 4 clearances himself.
We had 39 total clearances, 5 more than Carlton.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

If you had answered my question instead of plucking stats to support your own argument, I would have responded.
What was our clearance rate? A simple question I would have thought.

Even our coach was clear that the reason we didn't capitalise on Will's dominance had more to do with poor efforts in not blocking and a lack of anticipation by some of our young midfielders.
In the first quarter Boyd and Griffen were getting plenty of Will's tap work, once Carlton's midfielders put more attention into these two at quarter time and others weren't able to help them out by blocking or by moving into better position themselves Carlton started sharking his tap outs with regularity.

[Topdog]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

We wont be much worse off because we are already in the bottom 5 teams in the comp. With GC and GWS being so damned awful we really can only go 2 spots down.

[Bornadog]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

How, he had 54 hit outs last night and what was our clearance rate?

We won the clearnaces.

[Desipura]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

What is magical stat clearance rate? Never heard it mentioned by anyone but you.
If 30 % of his 54 taps went to advantage that's 16 or so. Who knows how many of those were clearances? Not sure its all his responsibility from that point anyway.
He had 4 clearances himself.
We had 39 total clearances, 5 more than Carlton.

Thanks for the healthy debate. Chops. I don't really rate hit outs to advantage unless we get the ball out of the centre.

[Bornadog]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

How can you say that when you do not know what the compensation is going to be? If we rate him, we will offer him a decent contract, if someone rates him higher they will offer him more.
As a result, our compensation as I understand it should be in line with the best offer.

Utter madness that we would want to let go a bigman. We all know it takes a tall alot longer to mature and when Will hits his peak you want to get rid of him. I don't understand this and I think you are on the wrong path with this one.

Will is now ranked number two for total hitouts and thats with one less game than Sam Jacob from Adelaide.

[Desipura]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

Utter madness that we would want to let go a bigman. We all know it takes a tall alot longer to mature and when Will hits his peak you want to get rid of him. I don't understand this and I think you are on the wrong path with this one.

Will is now ranked number two for total hitouts and thats with one less game than Sam Jacob from Adelaide.

We are all entitled to our opinion. All will be revealed from now until October 31st.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Memo to Garlick/Fantasia/Macca/Macca - Sign Minson Now

Thanks for the healthy debate. Chops. I don't really rate hit outs to advantage unless we get the ball out of the centre.

What are you looking for then?
If he gets the hit advantage then that's as much as he can do unless he gets the clearance himself.