Match Committee- Round 19 vs North Melbourne

[azabob]

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Still no Hargrave - shame he doesn't appear to be in the plans.

[jeemak]

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Still no Hargrave - shame he doesn't appear to be in the plans.

I think his continuing ommission is an affirmation of the development stance being taken, and it seems the writing is on the wall for him unfortunately.

On the one hand he's certainly going to assist us in being competitive in games, though we're not going to go forward with him. Same with Gilbee.

I'm disappointed they've ommitted Veszpremi. Perhaps he's not working hard enough, or perhaps he's not seen as somebody that will be able to contribute going forwards. I feel he's been limited by where he's played and the fact he's been under enormous pressure as a developing backman. It would be a bloody hard job trying to gain confidence in defense in our side right now, which is why I also feel for Howard's predicament.

Great to see JJ getting a run, and Sherman being given an opportunity to play for his career. It will be interesting to see how they both go over the coming weeks.

[Bornadog]

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I'm disappointed they've ommitted Veszpremi. Perhaps he's not working hard enough, or perhaps he's not seen as somebody that will be able to contribute going forwards. .

Perhaps he isn't good enough

[The Pie Man]

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Wouldn't have played Skinner or Campbell, though with the ins we have one of Howard or Smith should be the sub.

Assuming it's one of JJ or Skinner though

[soupman]

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I'm disappointed they've ommitted Veszpremi. Perhaps he's not working hard enough, or perhaps he's not seen as somebody that will be able to contribute going forwards. I feel he's been limited by where he's played and the fact he's been under enormous pressure as a developing backman. It would be a bloody hard job trying to gain confidence in defense in our side right now, which is why I also feel for Howard's predicament.

I've come to the conclusion that he isn't going to make it, and maybe the coaches have to.

He has talent, and I was on his side for much of this year, but watching him these last few weeks I just can't see it anymore.

[Bornadog]

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Wouldn't have played Skinner or Campbell, though with the ins we have one of Howard or Smith should be the sub.

Assuming it's one of JJ or Skinner though

You would think JJ will be the sub.

[LostDoggy]

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I've come to the conclusion that he isn't going to make it, and maybe the coaches have to.

He has talent, and I was on his side for much of this year, but watching him these last few weeks I just can't see it anymore.

He probably won't make but if we are just watching the past few weeks then there 5 or 6 that won't make it.
His cards may be marked but it's really difficult to judge most players under the current style. The plot has officially been lost.
Someone please explain the reasoning behind this 3 ruck strategy?
How is it developing and how are we going forward with it?
I light of this and puzzling decision like promoting Panos but not trying him, I fear that the wrong decisions are going to be made regarding delistings and retirements.

[The Pie Man]

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You would think JJ will be the sub.

He's a good chance I admit - which to me doesn't make sense given he was rested last week. He should be good to go for at least 3 quarters.

If Skinner plays his 4th game as the sub again, that will go down as one of the dumber player management decisions in my time following footy. There is zero point playing Skinner if he's going to be the sub again.

I really hope it's Howard.

[Maddog37]

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Vez is just not fit enough. He is like Pebbles Rocca without the size and marking ability.

I would consider delisting and putting him on the rookie list and see how hungry he really is. Tough love.

[whythelongface]

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Good to see JJ make his debut. Looks like Campbell will play forward and share rucking duties with Minson.

Will they persist with Williams up forward and play Roughead down back? Have thought that Williams has been pretty decent as a lead up forward. Still obviously lacking in fitness and when the ball is bombed in long looks a bit lost. Mind you the service from the midfield is pretty ordinary.

As someone has alluded to already, Sherman must surely be playing for his spot on the team. He needs to play an outside role and use his pace to take the game on.

Has Gilbee been omitted or is he injured/ suspended?

[The Pie Man]

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Good to see JJ make his debut. Looks like Campbell will play forward and share rucking duties with Minson.

Will they persist with Williams up forward and play Roughead down back? Have thought that Williams has been pretty decent as a lead up forward. Still obviously lacking in fitness and when the ball is bombed in long looks a bit lost. Mind you the service from the midfield is pretty ordinary.

As someone has alluded to already, Sherman must surely be playing for his spot on the team. He needs to play an outside role and use his pace to take the game on.

Has Gilbee been omitted or is he injured/ suspended?

Shannon Grant mentioned in the team announcement that both Gilbee & Dahl had pulled up 'sore' from last week. Jones & Ves definitely ommitted.

Agree that Roughy will likely play back, with Campbell at FF sharing ruck. Not a massive fan of this really.

[LostDoggy]

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Is Jones coming in and out doing him any good?
I feel he would be better just to stay in the foward line and learn...Is he injured?

[Maddog37]

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Is Jones coming in and out doing him any good?
I feel he would be better just to stay in the foward line and learn...Is he injured?

In an ideal world I would agree Savage but he flat out stopped trying last week I thought.

[G-Mo77]

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In an ideal world I would agree Savage but he flat out stopped trying last week I thought.

Agree with that. I'm a pretty big fan of Jones as well and have no problem with his omission. Macca was pretty upset with "some" of the young guys last week, fair chance Jones was one of the ones he was referring to in the press conference.

[Maddog37]

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Hopefully it is a valuable lesson for him. I saw him complaining to the umps quite a bit too which to be fair was not surprising considering the Saints tactics but still, he needs to be better than that.