What is this string of losses doing to our club?

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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44690

    What is this string of losses doing to our club?

    I'm not a very frequent poster here and don't impose my views with the robustness of some... but I'm there at the game every week. I stayed till the end today. I do that every week too.

    Like most of us I've not seen a premiership or even a grand final. I've been there for all the heartaches and those prelims. But right now I'm quite fearful for our club. We did expect it would be a tough year, a rebuilding year despite what I find ridiculous efforts to not communicate that reality with any honesty. But I looked forward to seeing the development of the kids, ok, some more quickly than others, maybe some inevitably disappoint, but I hoped to see an emerging nucleus of a side that would be strong again, even if it was 3 years down the track.

    Instead I see regression in most of the 'kids' ( some are not that young in footy terms), and some senior guys continuing to play in the same way that has failed us for a long while.

    I see a game style with no flair, zest, or positive energy. As a supporter who goes every week I feel so disillusioned about having to grit my teeth and brace myself for another dour characterless drubbing when footy should be enjoyable and at least have the hope and romantic dream of a win each week.

    There were probably lucky to be 3000 dogs fans there today. We just can't afford to be this bad.

    I find myself desperate to hear real answers, a vision that will make sense of where we are at. I want the club to genuinely communicate with me not serve up the rubbish that we had this week from Boyd about everyone being somehow happy with where we're at, as though all would be well if those pesky supporters weren't so demanding. For..a win, sometime soon?

    I half wish I hadn't written this but I had to express just how hard it is to be a fan right now and my fear that we might not as a club be able to ride throught this as I just don't feel this is a mere hiccup along the way to a greater good.
    Last edited by GVGjr; 29-07-2012, 10:46 PM. Reason: Spelling!!
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
  • KT31
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jul 2008
    • 5454

    #2
    Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

    The same as your Avatar did to the SS Minnow !
    It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44690

      #3
      Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

      Touché, but .that's Maynard g krepps, not Gilligan!
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • KT31
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jul 2008
        • 5454

        #4
        Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

        Originally posted by remember54
        Touché, but .that's Maynard g krepps, not Gilligan!
        Still Bob Denver.
        It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66785

          #5
          Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

          Originally posted by remember54
          Touché, but .that's Maynard g krepps, not Gilligan!
          Well Maynard did alot of thinking and we need more than that at the moment.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Sedat
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2007
            • 11265

            #6
            Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

            We've been pantsed by a couple of good teams during this run (Sydney and Hawthorn), but the manner of our capitulations against middle of the road and even mediocre teams has been the truly alarming aspect to our form slump. Essendon have struggled to win a game since the start of June but they touched us up by 14 goals. Brisbane lost by 100 points today but smashed us by 10 goals in Melbourne. Carlton had 12 starting players missing but still outscored us by 9 goals in the 2nd half last week.

            Rebuilding is all about selling hope - these results are sucking the last vestiges of hope away from our supporter base. I went today and apart from the fact that there were hardly any Dogs supporters there, those of us that were there knew before the opening bounce that we were no chance to win whatsoever, and when the wheels inevitably fell off after qtr time we all just shrugged our shoulders and almost laughed at the slowness and stop-start nature of our ball movement, the our butchering of basic skills and the complete and utter ease with which St Kilda were able to run the ball unopposed end to end. What hope is there for fans when you have 3 players only who are capable of taking the game on against the opposition? Aside from Bob, Dahl and Griff, the rest all just chip it sideways and resort to a static, boring, unwatchable spectacle that renders it virtually impossible for us to score more than 1-2 goals a qtr. We play with a complete absence of dare, enterprise and spark....is it any wonder that our fans have dropped off in droves?
            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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            • SonofScray
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 4240

              #7
              Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

              I might be a little unrealistic, given our history but the important thing is to stave of the fear of folding / merging etc. It muddies up the decision making process too much. For right now, I want the Club to make some strong statements, stick to their guns and make the hard calls on their own terms. Come hell or high water.

              Its not just the losses that hurt though, it is the combination of off field stuff that is going on as well. The Collingwood seating issue, Will Minson witch hunt, Ward/Harbrow departures, the constant spin, the constant rolling over and sense that our Board and Football Dept kowtow to the AFL, our stubborn President, ultra conservative approach. This stuff hurts. It adds up as well.

              There just isn't any fight in our Club at the moment, even our fans; except our most staunch, appear to be spent.
              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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              • Topdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7471

                #8
                Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

                Honestly it has got me thinking that I may not brainwash my 2yo into being a Dogs supporter. My family are all Pies supporters.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

                  I wrote about the fact that our club is in dire need of a shake, the board, the footy department and yes the coach are not up to it, on top of this we have several players that are just turning up for the money. I dont see the bulldog spirit of ol, Teddy and Charlie would be rolling in the grave to see this sort of stuff.

                  Will a change of presidency change the club culture, prob not, will a shake up of the footy department do anything in the short term, flip a coin. Like it or not we are dead in the water for at least five years, I cant see it being any earlier then that. So, get use to low membership, low attendance and lack of money folks it is 1995/6 all over again.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66785

                    #10
                    Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

                    Originally posted by Topdog
                    Honestly it has got me thinking that I may not brainwash my 2yo into being a Dogs supporter. My family are all Pies supporters.
                    Noooooooooooooooo
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • KT31
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5454

                      #11
                      Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

                      Originally posted by Topdog
                      Honestly it has got me thinking that I may not brainwash my 2yo into being a Dogs supporter. My family are all Pies supporters.
                      Had two young kid's at our club lined up a Doggies supporters.
                      One went to the Hawks and the oter now a Swan.
                      It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18979

                        #12
                        Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

                        I went yesterday against my better judgement (surely there are more uplifting pastimes!) and as stated above was waiting for the inevitable capitulation. We just cant kick goals. Its gotten to the point where I single out players and watch what they're doing rather than the ball, usually marvelling at the opposition eg Hayes and Reiwoldts workrate and ball finding ability. The players on the park yesterday were far more capable than the rubbish they displayed after half time. First time all year i've wondered if we have the right coach. Need the season to end on a high somehow to get some spirit and hope back otherwise the ~30000 members will become 25000 and a real big problem.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18979

                          #13
                          Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

                          Interesting addendum - just speaking to a workmate and he informed me a family member aged 10, big doggies supporter is being wooed over to the Hawks and may change his allegiances. This is why we cant bottom out for mine. This season is really hurting the club.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • G-Mo77
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9876

                            #14
                            Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            Interesting addendum - just speaking to a workmate and he informed me a family member aged 10, big doggies supporter is being wooed over to the Hawks and may change his allegiances. This is why we cant bottom out for mine. This season is really hurting the club.
                            Kids change their teams all the time so it's no biggie. My older brother changed from a successful Carlton team to a wooden spooner team in St. Kilda back in the 80's and has never looked back. I also converted a Geelong supporter to a Dog supporter a few years ago just because I took him to the game and got his photo taken with our mascot.

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                            • KT31
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5454

                              #15
                              Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

                              Originally posted by G-Mo77
                              Kids change their teams all the time so it's no biggie. My older brother changed from a successful Carlton team to a wooden spooner team in St. Kilda back in the 80's and has never looked back. I also converted a Geelong supporter to a Dog supporter a few years ago just because I took him to the game and got his photo taken with our mascot.

                              Not a biggie when it's one or two kids and you are attracting others.
                              It is a biggie when you are losing heaps of kids and not attracting any.
                              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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