Hope at last

[Hotdog60]

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Is Roughead being groomed to takeover the Lake role? His marking was good yesterday and his kicking was ok too. It will be good for Roughead if he can make the transition and not a bad idea to have a replacement for Lake in a season or two's time.

[LongWait]

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Is Roughead being groomed to takeover the Lake role? His marking was good yesterday and his kicking was ok too. It will be good for Roughead if he can make the transition and not a bad idea to have a replacement for Lake in a season or two's time.

Rougheads' performance down back these last two games, together with our large number of inside 50's but low score, raises the hoary old chestnut again: should we play Lake up forward for a few games to try to get a better forward structure?

[GVGjr]

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I think there is a lot to be optimistic about especially with the younger guys but it will take time.

Wallis and Libertore can become 200 game players
Howard has played some good games this season (and some poor ones)
Johannisen looks to have the pace and skills that our list needs to add
Roughead is getting experience at a variety of positions.
Dahlhaus still has plenty of scope for improvement.
Smith can become a strong midfielder for us.

What we need to hopefully fall in place for us is:
Jones to establish himself as a key forward
Grant to reach his potential
Roberts and Talia to continue to develop
Markovic and Austin to add depth as key defenders
Williams to become a key forward
and Higgins to stay fit.

All this is easier said than done but with some early picks in the draft we can certainly add some more exciting players.

[Bulldog4life]

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I think there is a lot to be optimistic about especially with the younger guys but it will take time.

Wallis and Libertore can become 200 game players
Howard has played some good games this season (and some poor ones)
Johannisen looks to have the pace and skills that our list needs to add
Roughead is getting experience at a variety of positions.
Dahlhaus still has plenty of scope for improvement.
Smith can become a strong midfielder for us.

What we need to hopefully fall in place for us is:
Jones to establish himself as a key forward
Grant to reach his potential
Roberts and Talia to continue to develop
Markovic and Austin to add depth as key defenders
Williams to become a key forward
and Higgins to stay fit.

All this is easier said than done but with some early picks in the draft we can certainly add some more exciting players.

Agree with all the players mentioned above GVGjr and if Wood, Cordy & Dickson keep improving too the team as a whole can improve no doubt.

[GVGjr]

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Agree with all the players mentioned above GVGjr and if Wood, Cordy & Dickson keep improving too the team as a whole can improve no doubt.

It would be a great bonus for us if Cordy could become a key forward but if Williams, Jones and then Grant become forwards for us I don't think there is a spot for Cordy.
You're right about Dickson because with a better fitness base he can improve.
I find hard to identify a spot for Easton Wood in the team. He's athletic which we lack and physical which we like but he isn't a good decision maker and his skill level isn't great.

[Maddog37]

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Think back to the Pies game before he did his hammy. That is what Wood brings. I would like to try him forward.

[Missing Dog]

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I was certainly encouraged.

The coach is right about Roughead - can be a key defender - read the ball well. his best game of the year.

I don't agree.

I would persevere with him a a forward until he proves he's just not good enough.

Lake was a KPF, we turned him into an elite full back-for a season or two-and failed at 3 prelims because we didn't have a KPF. We don't need to repeat this with Roughhead.

[The Underdog]

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Markovic and Austin to add depth as key defenders

Given the rise of Austin, and improvement of Talia and Roberts, is there a spot on the list for Markovic next year? Given we're likely to be developing players next year, would he be anything more than a last call back-up?

[GVGjr]

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Lake was a KPF, we turned him into an elite full back-for a season or two-and failed at 3 prelims because we didn't have a KPF. We don't need to repeat this with Roughhead.

Lake was always a key position defender when he arrived at the club. With Roughead the plan appears to be to use him as a versatile tall capable of playing forward, back and in the ruck and I think that is great for his development.
I think we have to put faith in Jones and Williams as key forwards next season.

[Missing Dog]

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Lake was always a key position defender when he arrived at the club. With Roughead the plan appears to be to use him as a versatile tall capable of playing forward, back and in the ruck and I think that is great for his development.
I think we have to put faith in Jones and Williams as key forwards next season.

I suppose it depends on what you mean by "arriving at the club", but thats definately NOT the way I remember it, and its been said (on this site and by TV commentators) that Lake played as a KPF until we made a defender of him.

[The Underdog]

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I suppose it depends on what you mean by "arriving at the club", but thats definately NOT the way I remember it, and its been said (on this site and by TV commentators) that Lake played as a KPF until we made a defender of him.

Lake was a borderline draft pick who became an All-Australian key defender. If he was that talented a junior forward then he would have been played there.

[GVGjr]

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I suppose it depends on what you mean by "arriving at the club", but thats definately NOT the way I remember it, and its been said (on this site and by TV commentators) that Lake played as a KPF until we made a defender of him.

In his first season at Werribee as Brian Harris he was pitted against Tony Lockett (playing for Port) so right from his first few games he was playing as a key defender. He performed very well in that role on the day.
He was drafted after playing as a forward in SA but from very early on he was a defender for us.

I stand to be corrected but I don't believe we ever established him as a forward then turned him into a defender.

[chef]

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I can remember Brian playing his first game in the forward line, but since then it's always been as a defender.

[GVGjr]

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I can remember Brian playing his first game in the forward line, but since then it's always been as a defender.

I seem to recall the same.

[Bulldog Joe]

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I don't agree.

I would persevere with him a a forward until he proves he's just not good enough.

Lake was a KPF, we turned him into an elite full back-for a season or two-and failed at 3 prelims because we didn't have a KPF. We don't need to repeat this with Roughhead.

So you don't agree that Roughy CAN be a key defender, but you think he should be perservered with as a forward.

Really if he can make as a key forward (which you are suggesting), he can certainly be a key defender.

This game was his best at the club EVER and as a key defender.