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Re: Young Bulldog Found Unconcious
He's just a young bloke who made a mistake. That's how I'm seeing it. What we've got to hope is that it is a one off incident and not the start of a Ben Cousins sort of problem. I'm betting it will be a one off incident only. A growing up issue. It would be good if he had a normal day job - same goes for most of the young guys. Don't know how it would fit in though with all the training, etc requirements but would be good if it could.Officially on the Bus-wagonComment
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Re: Young Bulldog Found Unconcious
Was wondering that myself!
I have to admit that when the story broke, Libba was the last one I expected to be named.
Incredibly disappointing, even if it was a one-off.
Just don't know what to make of it all at the moment; I hope the boy is okay.
The club doesn't need something like this right now, either. However, we are the Dogs, and we will go on, as always...Comment
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Re: Young Bulldog Found Unconcious
Bit hard to do that when you are warming the pine. How does being off the field help us?
Dark day for our club. Our logo, with a headline about drugs in it.
I think it is HIGHLY realistic to expect professionals to act in accordance to standards of behavior. Be they teachers, athletes or whoever.
And if you think for a second that it's all about what you do on the field, look at what happened to Wayne Carey when
he accepted his last award ( whatever it was ) on the field. Booed to kingdom come by all and sundry. The greatest player that ever played the game, and nobody gives a rats, because of what he did off the field.
Our leadership group has a massive question mark hanging over it. And the kid is just one offence away from being out of the team.You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― EpicurusComment
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Re: Young Bulldog Found Unconcious
I give a shit Frank. I put my hard earned money every year for this club & if one of our players is found unconscious at 3:30am by the police then i definitely give a shit.
Libba is in a privileged position & if he wants to do that sort of stuff then go & play local footy & then nobody will give a shit. You can't have it both ways.
Was gutted when i heard the news. This doesn't make Tom a bad person but I'm just disappointed in him.Comment
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You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― EpicurusComment
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Re: Young Bulldog Found Unconcious
He's representing me as a member of the Club and being paid well to do so. Usually I'm all for leaving players' be to live their lives as they choose but with that comes the responsibility of being a professional athlete. I think its reasonable for us to expect players will take care of their bodies and prepare exceptionally well.
Simply cannot have that type of behaviour happening in season (drunk/out late) for our sake and really hope Tom realises that he can't be taking drugs etc for his sake. A Saturday night here and there, a handful of girls or whatever, just isn't worth the risk to his health first and foremost, or his career prospects beyond that.
Geez it was disappointing news.Time and Tide Waits For No ManComment
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Re: Young Bulldog Found Unconcious
King street is for try hard gangsters and drugs, strip clubs and general looserism.
It's a place to take your hummer limo for a spin you know, just show it off and impress the ladies.
47% of people say it's the most dangerous place in Melbourne.
The rest think it's west footscray station ^_^You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― EpicurusComment
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Re: Young Bulldog Found Unconcious
This to me is the critical point. How did our leadership group allow it to get to this point? Why had no one, leadership group, coaching staff etc sought to pull him into line? Leadership isn't about holding up the cup at the end of the season and saying what a great bunch of guys your teammates are, its about pulling non-conformers into line; striving for the team ethos; going the extra mile when things are down; and if you are lucky, being able to celebrate the highs.
Make no bones about it, Libba is a dickhead, not so much for using drugs, but because he is stupid enough to believe that doing drugs will still allow him to perform as an elite athlete and that there will be no accounting for his actions at some point.
My take is pretty hardline. If you choose to be an athlete then there are rules that you abide by. You have a collective responsibility to your team mates, the club, and the fans of the club at a minimum to do your utmost to be the best possible athlete you can be. If you don't want to do that, *!*!*!*! Off! I hope the club take a strong stance on this - whether this is your first/second strike it is irrelevant - as a player on the Bulldogs list you must abide by team rules - next transgression will see the club sack him. There are no place whatsoever for drugs in a football club and if Libba is too much of a dickhead to realise this then is he really the type of guy we want playing for us? Better off putting time into someone else!Comment
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Re: Young Bulldog Found Unconcious
That's all well and good, but you seem to have found him guilty of the next offence already! What about giving him a chance to make amends? As for the leadership group, whilst I have my concerns, why do they have to take responsibility after hours? Surely you don't want them following the players around, making sure they're not 'out of line', all hours of the day and night? By asking why no one pulled him into line, you're going on the assumption that this incident was one of several. There's no evidence to suggest that.[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]Comment
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