Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
    No idea how DJ survives, and I hate that we are playing Markovic over Talia.
    While it may not seem that way I think realistically we're playing Roberts over Talia. I thought Talia's promotion was premature, but he did a pretty good job and will be better for the exposure. I think he's at least another preseason from being ready to be a viable back up. To me Roberts has been ahead of Talia this year but from what I've heard he was a little bit sore a couple of weeks ago which held him back.

    I think 2 games for Talia and 3 and a bit for Roberts is pretty much the right return for those two, hopefully with some VFL finals experience too.
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    • The Bulldogs Bite
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11246

      Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

      Originally posted by Greystache
      While it may not seem that way I think realistically we're playing Roberts over Talia. I thought Talia's promotion was premature, but he did a pretty good job and will be better for the exposure. I think he's at least another preseason from being ready to be a viable back up. To me Roberts has been ahead of Talia this year but from what I've heard he was a little bit sore a couple of weeks ago which held him back.

      I think 2 games for Talia and 3 and a bit for Roberts is pretty much the right return for those two, hopefully with some VFL finals experience too.
      I'm glad Roberts is playing and hopefully if his body is permitting, he will see out the remaining games. However, I don't see why we wouldn't blood an extra few games into Talia too. It can only benefit him in the long run, playing on a range of different AFL opponents in a fast paced and highly competitive environment.

      What do we have to lose by playing both Talia and Roberts for the remaining few games?

      Moreover, how can anyone justify playing Markovic ahead of Talia? What does that achieve short term AND long term?
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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
        I'm glad Roberts is playing and hopefully if his body is permitting, he will see out the remaining games. However, I don't see why we wouldn't blood an extra few games into Talia too. It can only benefit him in the long run, playing on a range of different AFL opponents in a fast paced and highly competitive environment.

        What do we have to lose by playing both Talia and Roberts for the remaining few games?

        Moreover, how can anyone justify playing Markovic ahead of Talia? What does that achieve short term AND long term?
        Talia, Roberts, and Roughead is an awfully inexperienced group. I think it's one too many.

        I liked the idea of Talia and Roberts getting a few games, but not necessarily in the same team. While some of our supporters don't rate Markovic and think he's only a short term solution, I don't think the coaching group sees it that way, I think he's seen as best 22 when available.
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        • The Bulldogs Bite
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 11246

          Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

          Originally posted by Greystache
          I liked the idea of Talia and Roberts getting a few games, but not necessarily in the same team. While some of our supporters don't rate Markovic and think he's only a short term solution, I don't think the coaching group sees it that way, I think he's seen as best 22 when available.
          It certainly appears that way given his selection when fit and McCartney's regular praise.

          Personally I don't see Markovic as a short term option. I see him as somebody we should delist alongside Hooper and Mulligan.
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          • The Pie Man
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2008
            • 3497

            Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
            It certainly appears that way given his selection when fit and McCartney's regular praise.

            Personally I don't see Markovic as a short term option. I see him as somebody we should delist alongside Hooper and Mulligan.
            Playing Markovic reeks of playing 'the right people'

            I can only assume Skinner turns up to work and does the right things, while Grant doesn't.

            Can it be 2014 already (not a typo)?
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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15322

              Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
              It certainly appears that way given his selection when fit and McCartney's regular praise.

              Personally I don't see Markovic as a short term option. I see him as somebody we should delist alongside Hooper and Mulligan.
              Originally posted by The Pie Man
              Playing Markovic reeks of playing 'the right people'



              Can it be 2014 already (not a typo)?
              Don't forget guys that Eade and co also rated Markovic, he also did finish tenth in our B&F in 2011.
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15449

                Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

                Originally posted by azabob
                Don't forget guys that Eade and co also rated Markovic, he also did finish tenth in our B&F in 2011.
                If Lake was fit Markovic would have been lucky to play 5 games last year.. he was played out of neccessity.

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15322

                  Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  If Lake was fit Markovic would have been lucky to play 5 games last year.. he was played out of neccessity.
                  True, but he still played a role and he obviously did it well.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

                    Originally posted by Chops
                    Grant is the coaches whipping boy.
                    No panos, safe to say gone.
                    Why is Campbell playing? A bet each way,Minson is going?
                    Do you know for sure whether he has a contract next year or not or are you assuming he hasn't?

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14965

                      Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      If Lake was fit Markovic would have been lucky to play 5 games last year.. he was played out of neccessity.
                      We'd play two talls in defence, and with Williams made of tissue paper he would still manage games last year with a fit Lake.
                      With Williams, Austin, Roughy playing back and Roberts & Talia developing, Marko is sadly on shaky ground.
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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44676

                        Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

                        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                        Do you know for sure whether he has a contract next year or not or are you assuming he hasn't?
                        I think there is a fair assumption that many believe he has a 1 year deal.
                        I would find it strange that we promoted him after two seasons as a rookie but then only give him a one year deal. In my view it's more likely than not that Panos will be at the club again next season.

                        I like him as a player but unless he really improves his running capacity I just don't think he can offer us much as a senior footballer.
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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          I think there is a fair assumption that many believe he has a 1 year deal.
                          I would find it strange that we promoted him after two seasons as a rookie but then only give him a one year deal. In my view it's more likely than not that Panos will be at the club again next season.

                          I like him as a player but unless he really improves his running capacity I just don't think he can offer us much as a senior footballer.
                          Ditto. Find it strange that the Club would promote him and not give him one senior game. Therefore would expect him to be there next year.

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                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            Re: Match Committee- Round 21 vs Sydney

                            I remember watching him at Willy and noting how good a kick he is. Something we badly need.
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