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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11962

    #1

    New Forward Line

    Now that we have a good idea at who will be at the club we can figure out who will make the most talked about forward line in the AFL over the last 3 years. I think it will be roughly

    HF: Acker Murph Higgins
    F: Johnno Welsh Hahn

    Reserves: Skipper/Tiller/Grant/Doogs/Minson/Cooney(pinch hitter)

    Any thoughts/improvements
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  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6471

    #2
    Re: New Forward Line

    Pretty short IMO - would like to see Skipper or Minson in there, but have no great confidence in either.
    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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    • Scorlibo
      Coaching Staff
      • Oct 2007
      • 3097

      #3
      Re: New Forward Line

      Pretty good, I'd swap Murph and Welsh around and also swap Aker and Johnno around, maybe Gia in for Hahn, but Mitch does add that extra bit of grunt which makes up for lack of height. You talked about how it has been the most talked about forward line of the past three years, well how about how it will look in three years time. Going on current players this would be mine:

      Lynch - Grant - Johnson
      Ward - Williams - Murphy

      When I saw Lynch play down in Canberra I was very impressed, he showed some great ball skill and pace and I think that of the indigenous blokes taken in the 2006 draft, he is most likely to succeed in three years time (needs to put on a lot of weight though). Grant is probably expected to move into the forward line sometime in the next three years where he will hopefully occupy a key forward position with great success. I would certainly expect Johnno to still be going in three years - he is ultra durable. Ward could play anywhere, but I think he is probably best suited to a half forward spot, what a talent he looks! Would like to see TomaWill move to the forward line, and it looks quite possible if OShea and Wight continue to develop. Murph will probably be in the prime of his career in the next three years and he occupies the last, half forward position.
      'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: New Forward Line

        This year:
        much the same as yours hujsh, but just a few spots changed.
        FF: Higgins Welsh Johnson
        HF: Giansiracusa Murphy Hahn

        I think Tiller will battle to get one game next year.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: New Forward Line

          Originally posted by sonofthewest
          This year:
          much the same as yours hujsh, but just a few spots changed.
          FF: Higgins Welsh Johnson
          HF: Giansiracusa Murphy Hahn

          I think Tiller will battle to get one game next year.
          What makes you say that? I thought he showed very promising signs toward the end of last season when he was finally injury free. If he adds weight in the pre season i belive he will continue to improve and develop into a decent forward for us. All he needs is gametime.

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15548

            #6
            Re: New Forward Line

            Originally posted by sonofthewest
            This year:
            much the same as yours hujsh, but just a few spots changed.
            FF: Higgins Welsh Johnson
            HF: Giansiracusa Murphy Hahn

            I think Tiller will battle to get one game next year.
            Would hope that Higgins improves his fitness such that he is able to play up the ground a little more next season.

            Agree with borgy that Tiller will be a factor next year, because he has to. We need to continue his development so that come 2009 he is our starting FF. I hope that he plays atleast 10 games next year.

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            • DOG GOD
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jul 2007
              • 6617

              #7
              Re: New Forward Line

              should we be including welsh when he isnt even on our list yet?

              I hope we do get him, but its not set in stone just yet.
              I will never see #16 the same!!

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              • Cyberdoggie
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 2861

                #8
                Re: New Forward Line

                Originally posted by borgy
                What makes you say that? I thought he showed very promising signs toward the end of last season when he was finally injury free. If he adds weight in the pre season i belive he will continue to improve and develop into a decent forward for us. All he needs is gametime.
                he needs to bulk up considerably,

                i'd be surprised if he gets more than a few games to be honest,

                will be interesting to see how he performs at willy, as he couldn't get a game in the werribee 1's with pods there. (not that he did anything much in the reserves to warrant a spot either)


                His promotion to the dogs was very unexpected.

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                • Go_Dogs
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10258

                  #9
                  Re: New Forward Line

                  Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                  he needs to bulk up considerably,

                  i'd be surprised if he gets more than a few games to be honest,

                  will be interesting to see how he performs at willy, as he couldn't get a game in the werribee 1's with pods there. (not that he did anything much in the reserves to warrant a spot either)


                  His promotion to the dogs was very unexpected.
                  Agreed, he's more of a longer term prospect, but should still be aiming to play a handful+ of games, depending on injuries etc.

                  I really like Tiller, his frame to me, shouts out that it can be developed and become very strong. He is good below the knees, works hard presenting, and has crisp hands. Decent pace of the mark too, although not outstanding. I think he could develop into a real power forward, given another year or 2.

                  A lot of it depends on how hard Stephen works in the gym. (And from most accounts, he is a pretty hard worker in there).
                  Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #10
                    Re: New Forward Line

                    Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                    he needs to bulk up considerably,

                    i'd be surprised if he gets more than a few games to be honest,

                    will be interesting to see how he performs at willy, as he couldn't get a game in the werribee 1's with pods there. (not that he did anything much in the reserves to warrant a spot either)


                    His promotion to the dogs was very unexpected.
                    His promotion was unexpected but now that he has the taste of what AFL is like, he can work on his areas that need improvement throughout the pre season.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 45580

                      #11
                      Re: New Forward Line

                      Originally posted by DOG GOD
                      should we be including welsh when he isnt even on our list yet?

                      I hope we do get him, but its not set in stone just yet.
                      We may as well. No one else has put their hand up yet. Tigers and Blues will look different players and Melbourne don't seem to be interested
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #12
                        Re: New Forward Line

                        Here's my attempt:

                        HF: Everitt (193cm) Murphy (186) Hahn (189)
                        FF: Johnson (185) Walsh (186?) Tiller (191)

                        I think we need a total change. I read Everitt's profile on the dogs website and it said that they hoped to dev. him into a tall forward.

                        Tiller needs more game time so im happy to start him in a pocket.

                        Other contenders for a flank were Aker, Higgo and Gia but i would like them all to spend more time in the midfield and only to play forward when resting.

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15548

                          #13
                          Re: New Forward Line

                          Originally posted by borgy
                          Here's my attempt:

                          HF: Everitt (193cm) Murphy (186) Hahn (189)
                          FF: Johnson (185) Walsh (186?) Tiller (191)

                          I think we need a total change. I read Everitt's profile on the dogs website and it said that they hoped to dev. him into a tall forward.

                          Tiller needs more game time so im happy to start him in a pocket.

                          Other contenders for a flank were Aker, Higgo and Gia but i would like them all to spend more time in the midfield and only to play forward when resting.
                          How are you going to fit these guys in the midfield on top of Cooney, Cross, Boyd, etc.. I would have thought that atleast 2 of them have to play in the forwardline.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #14
                            Re: New Forward Line

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            How are you going to fit these guys in the midfield on top of Cooney, Cross, Boyd, etc.. I would have thought that atleast 2 of them have to play in the forwardline.
                            I did think of that along with the midfield rotation where a couple of them sit in the pocket or on a flank. Im sure something could be sorted out with a bit more thought.

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                            • southerncross
                              Technical Admin
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 590

                              #15
                              Re: New Forward Line

                              In the pre season I would like to see the club try something like

                              Murphy - Wight - Akermanis
                              Johnson - Welsh - Everitt
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